operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby sweater » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:24 pm

People kill people. People kill wolves. Wolves kill wolves. Wolves kill people.

Are we done here? c;
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Thestormwitch » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:51 pm

Sonador wrote:People kill people. People kill wolves. Wolves kill wolves. Wolves kill people.

Are we done here? c;

yeah :)
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby forecast » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:12 pm

Raisedbywolves13 wrote:
Sonador wrote:People kill people. People kill wolves. Wolves kill wolves. Wolves kill people.

Are we done here? c;

yeah :)

Not exactly, but very rarely wolves kill people. They prefer to stay away from them. The only reason is because we pose a threat to them. They also kill people for food, but that's also rare.
So i guess we are done here.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Vayentha » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:43 pm

air claw wrote:
Raisedbywolves13 wrote:
Sonador wrote:People kill people. People kill wolves. Wolves kill wolves. Wolves kill people.

Are we done here? c;

yeah :)

Not exactly, but very rarely wolves kill people. They prefer to stay away from them. The only reason is because we pose a threat to them. They also kill people for food, but that's also rare.
So i guess we are done here.

Yes. Wolves only attack when they are provoked, they realize that humans can have guns and have a one-hit kill on them.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby bearcups » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:35 am

happy-stabby wrote:Yes. Wolves only attack when they are provoked, they realize that humans can have guns and have a one-hit kill on them.


Nope.

Wolves do not know that humans carry guns and they certainly do not know that we can kill them with a single shot. They do attack unprovoked, but, in a way, its perfectly easy to understand why that happens. Wolves are opportunists, meaning they will literally take any opportunity to get an easy meal, so it doesn't really come as a surprise to me when I hear of a wolf killing a human, or a tiger killing a human, or a predator in general making off with a human child.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby sweater » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:01 am

aeiou wrote:
happy-stabby wrote:Yes. Wolves only attack when they are provoked, they realize that humans can have guns and have a one-hit kill on them.


Nope.

Wolves do not know that humans carry guns and they certainly do not know that we can kill them with a single shot. They do attack unprovoked, but, in a way, its perfectly easy to understand why that happens. Wolves are opportunists, meaning they will literally take any opportunity to get an easy meal, so it doesn't really come as a surprise to me when I hear of a wolf killing a human, or a tiger killing a human, or a predator in general making off with a human child.


I definitely agree with Aeiou...but I thought we were done with this argument?
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby forecast » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:06 am

aeiou wrote:
Nope.

Wolves do not know that humans carry guns and they certainly do not know that we can kill them with a single shot. They do attack unprovoked, but, in a way, its perfectly easy to understand why that happens. Wolves are opportunists, meaning they will literally take any opportunity to get an easy meal, so it doesn't really come as a surprise to me when I hear of a wolf killing a human, or a tiger killing a human, or a predator in general making off with a human child.

There is a species of tiger called "man eating tiger". So i do not get suprised when tigers kill humans. But wolves either attack humans for food (mainly because they are injured or old, and cannot hunt elk or any other prey without the prey outrunning them or getting more injured/killed) Or the humans pose a threat, armed or not. And humans aren't really easy meals. Like the man eating tiger problem, there is a solution. People put masks of their face on the back of their head, because predators like tigers attack when the prey is unsuspecting. The fairytales of the world have altered the minds of generations. Wolves are not like that. People have to understand how to share the world with them.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby bearcups » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:05 am

air claw wrote:There is a species of tiger called "man eating tiger". So i do not get suprised when tigers kill humans. But wolves either attack humans for food (mainly because they are injured or old, and cannot hunt elk or any other prey without the prey outrunning them or getting more injured/killed) Or the humans pose a threat, armed or not. And humans aren't really easy meals. Like the man eating tiger problem, there is a solution. People put masks of their face on the back of their head, because predators like tigers attack when the prey is unsuspecting. The fairytales of the world have altered the minds of generations. Wolves are not like that. People have to understand how to share the world with them.


thank for reminding me never to use other animals in an example because there will always be that one person who uses it against you

Eh, no, see, you're wrong there too because an opportunistic predator doesn't think like that. its literally just a constant flow of how can i eat without spending too much energy, not oh i cant eat that im not fragile enough for it yet damn. humans are quite frankly, the easiest thing to eat besides plants and thats only because they dont move. we're slow, we dont have claws or fangs, we arent particularly strong when it comes to a huge majority of the animals out there, we're just smart enough to use tools but sometimes we dont have tools and then we're as intimidating as a blade of 1 inch tall grass.

also, EVERY PREDATOR ATTACKS WHEN THE PREY IS UNSUSPECTING. otherwise, how on earth would they catch it?
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby Jazi » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:13 am

air claw wrote:
There is a species of tiger called "man eating tiger".


There is not.

There is a subspecies of lion called the Tsavo lion which are more aggressive and are in more documented attacks than other lion types. They have more testosterone than other lions and are maneless and more violent as a result. There is no man-eating tiger subspecies.

All predators and some herbivores have, can, and will attack humans and eat them. Even elephants and hippos. Even chimpanzees.
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Re: operation p.a.w. ;; don't let the howls stop

Postby SneakyCryptid » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:42 pm

I, Ancient~Warrior~Wolf , will dedicate myself to helping wolves have a better future. I swear to give my all in protecting these beautiful creatures, and will help in anyway I can.
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