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[Vayentha]

top 25 most dangerous animals

wolves aren't on here- these are probably good reference C:
one of my fave spiders is on the list omg i want it now


by the way, wolves never kill for fun. they eat everything they hunt/kill, and if they are provoked then too bad.

[Wazaiyata]

wow ok then every single thing I've ever read and watched is obviously a lie wow

(spoiler alert: that isn't sarcasm I'm genuinely worried as to what the tv has been feeding me oops)

also I wouldn't call them murderers
humans are murderers
animals are hunters its what they do really so

I understand. They put a lot of things on T.V that aren't real so it's fine. My resources weren't simply from a t.v. show. if you would still like to know my sources i would happily give them to you c:

And sorry I referred to murderers. People around me just say that a lot, so the term came to mind.

[bearcups]

psssst the brackets explain what I mean by WOW THIS LOOKS LIKE FUN
I meant surplus killing
which they do
it's a thing

What did you think the babies were born with the knowledge of how to bring down an elk or a rabbit or...?

naw they don't have to be that hungry. We're easy as hell to kill and eat, we're defenceless without weapons. it's basically the same as a wolf jumping on a baby elk deer thing because it has more benefits than costs to killing and eating it.

ok let me get serious for a second

A predator will only pursue and kill prey that is beneficial to them
so a lone wolf wouldn't try to hunt and kill an elk because they have more of a chance of exhausting themselves / getting injured / getting killed
A lone wolf would try and bring down an elk calf / rabbit / human child because they don't have to spend as much energy chasing them (maybe not with the rabbit) and they would get more energy from the actual meal.

You should think of predator hunting like selling stuff.
People who sell stuff want to make a profit.
The wolf needs to make a little profit to survive.

wow ok animal behaviour classes pay off woah

@Wazaiyata

YES PLEASE thank

[eyesemote]

You are saying that wolves are just killers? I do not think so.
Animals are wild but not just crazy killers like humans can be.

[bearcups]

no im

too sick for this please don't warp my words

saying they're beneficial hunters

ok let's pretend they're college students who love tumblr
they go and get the food that they can make the fastest because it's easier and beneficial and uses less energy

[Vayentha]

I saw two wolves take down a bison. One got pretty hurt, I don't think wolves mind so much on the consequences if they get such a big 'reward'. It took a really long time by the way~

edit;; when i say don't mind, i mean think about it after they're finished eating whatever they hunt
and, wolves must hunt for survival, like we have to work for money, food, shelter etc.
they don't kill for fun, less people volunteer than the amount that work for money

[bearcups]

quick question where they young wolves (as in like 1 - 2 years old)

[Vayentha]

No. They were full-grown arctic wolves. They weren't very bulk either.

[bearcups]

well
that was pretty dumb of them
they must have been desperate for food or just stupid
food doesn't heal broken bones so
yet again a wolf does something I can't understand

I can literally see no benefits to trying to take down a bison of all things with just two wolves
did the injured one die a few weeks afterward?
because bison are huge and artic wolves aren't really that big in comparison

I still can't get over that wow
youtubes

EDIT

YEAH OKAY I WATCHED IT AND
those wolves look thin
they're hungry
the one that got basically catapulted probably died a few days after

[Wazaiyata]

psssst the brackets explain what I mean by WOW THIS LOOKS LIKE FUN
I meant surplus killing
which they do
it's a thing

What did you think the babies were born with the knowledge of how to bring down an elk or a rabbit or...?

naw they don't have to be that hungry. We're easy as hell to kill and eat, we're defenceless without weapons. it's basically the same as a wolf jumping on a baby elk deer thing because it has more benefits than costs to killing and eating it.

ok let me get serious for a second

A predator will only pursue and kill prey that is beneficial to them
so a lone wolf wouldn't try to hunt and kill an elk because they have more of a chance of exhausting themselves / getting injured / getting killed
A lone wolf would try and bring down an elk calf / rabbit / human child because they don't have to spend as much energy chasing them (maybe not with the rabbit) and they would get more energy from the actual meal.

You should think of predator hunting like selling stuff.
People who sell stuff want to make a profit.
The wolf needs to make a little profit to survive.

wow ok animal behaviour classes pay off woah

@Wazaiyata

YES PLEASE thank

I believe surplus killing only occurs when the wolves/other animals are hunting on farmlands. If a wolf only brings down wild prey in 1/5 attempts, i don't think they would be surplus killing elk or deer. Unless of course the herd is full of weak things to pick off.

My resources are from people that are not one-sided. Many of us here either get our "facts" from animal activist websites or ant-wolf/pro wolf hunting websites. I get mine from living people (not internet or t.v. it is full of lies). One of my sources was staff at the Denver zoo. They are obviously not one-sided animal-activists if they support keeping animals in captivity that are meant to be wild. Another source was a staff member at Mission:Wolf. They do support saving wolves, and rescue them from canned hunting, irresponsible exotic pet owners, etc. But they do not protest against hunting, and just aim to educate the public in order for people to know more about the species, and not follow rumors or false information.
My last resource is someone who you can actually talk to directly, if you would like. She is Darlene, the president of CWWC. Her contact information is on the website.