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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby draf » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:50 am

It sounds like you may be giving in to him too early. You have to be sure to turn away and completely ignore him until he's calmed down. You also have to be sure to do it every time, even if you're enjoying playing with him. If he's still trying to engage you when you're ignoring him, go into another room and close the door behind you. Wait until it sounds like he's calmed down and then return and praise him gently. If he gets worked up again, just to back into the other room, close the door, and wait until he calms down again. It will seem like it's not working at first, but if you're consistent and do it every time, your dog will learn to play more gently.
Giving your puppy more exercise would also probably help. If your puppy is tired, he'll have more self-control; so he won't be so driven to bite you. Try to teach him appropriate games, like tug and fetch, and be sure you're engaging him for at least half an hour a day.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Ѧʋƨιc » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:53 am

Yeah. He goes on a hour walk! that is more then a dog should be getting. They should get between 20-30 mintues/day. I have done what your telling me. I am telling you. He still does it. Our trainer told us to do that and we did it for a week and he is still biting. It just not working this way.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby draf » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:34 am

An hour walk is not the same as half an hour of hard exercise. My puppy would chew through the walls if he only got one hour walk a day. How much exercise your dog needs will depend on his age and breed, of course, but I think you should try increasing his exercise and see if it helps.
Also, I really don't think one week is long enough for a practiced and highly-reinforcing behaviour like biting to extinguish. If you can, try to keep it up for three weeks and see if you notice a difference. Biting is a very rewarding behaviour for some dogs, so it can take a while for your training to work.
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Postby Ѧʋƨιc » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:48 am

Yes,but you see you can not compare your pup to mine. A: We have different breeds and different ages. Also 20-30 minutes is what is what my vet,websites,and trainer says is best for my dog. Also It does not work I have tried each way for about a week or more. Thanks for your input and tip,but it just does not work for my pup.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby draf » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:54 am

Yes, I did in fact say that the amount of exercise dogs need varies with age and breed. Still, when struggling with a high-energy or anxious behaviour, most trainers recommend increasing exercise whenever possible. I'm sorry if you took my comment as criticism of how you care for your dog; that was not what I was trying to say.

Perhaps you should speak with your vet about your behaviour issue. If your vet cannot offer any alternative training methods you find acceptable, you may want to consult with a behavioural veterinarian instead.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Ѧʋƨιc » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:08 am

I never took your comment that way or said high-energy or anxious behaviour? It just when he is in the living room. Does not do it anywhere else? When we are out on a walk perfect. When anywhere else in the house,perfect? So he is neither of these things. So It would not be clear to a vet or behavioural veterinarian? He does not act this way? So they would not see anything. Thank you for your help and enjoy your day/night.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby draf » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:33 am

Excessive biting is usually a high-energy or anxious behaviour, which is why I connected it to exercise. If your puppy is just languidly nibbling on you and not getting excited, then it's probably not a high-energy or anxious behaviour. I haven't seen how your puppy behaves, so I wouldn't know for sure.
That said, a behavioural veterinarian would not need to see the behaviour to have suggestions on how to fix it. Behavioural vets are highly trained on how to deal with animal behaviour in a clinical way. If your dog is not responding to standard behavioural interventions, you should talk to a specialist about getting an intervention plan tailored to your situation.
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Cardinal » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:24 pm

Ѧʋƨιc wrote:Yeah we tried that. None of that works. He still thinks it is a game that we are ignoring us. So he keeps on doing it and doing it. He never stops. We also have tried the whine,but he thinks it is a game to make us whine. Thanks for trying though.


Clicker clicker clicker. I'm not sure what method of training you're using but investing in a clicker is a freaking life saver. <3

If you have the time and attention I have a few videos you can watch and HOPEFULLY your pup will calm down. =) Before I do post these videos I'd like to personally address the biting. Biting is a HIGHLY rewarding activity for puppies. Its like.. the best thing ever. Why? Because they get attention. Whether negative like "No!" (being spoken to is the best thing evar!)or pushing the puppy off (I'm being touched... HURRAY!) or even making eye contact (They're looking at me! I sure do love all this attention!) or positive like giving them a toy to chew on instead of your hands (Biting = toy.. thats awesome!).. you can see how the puppy can find this rewarding.. even if it annoys the living heck outta us. As Draf stated the absolute BEST thing you can possibly do for puppy biting (not actual aggression!) is ignore ignore ignore. Its frustrating. It takes a while for results. It may make you want to pull our hair out, but its NOT rewarding to the dog /at all/. Thats why its so highly recommended. Its not rewarding or reinforcing so it works... eventually.

Video time so you can actually get a visual and better advise than a no-body on the interwebs.

What is clicker training: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wv1uvvqaSw
Puppy biting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c77--cCHPyU
Paired with puppy biting or any other unwanted behavior this is an AWESOME video <3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvPaqMZyo8
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Re: Having a hard time training?Or just want to know new tri

Postby Ѧʋƨιc » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:37 am

Oh yeah thanks for the tips. We have the biting under control now! Our neighbour showed us this way and it is working for us. He thinks our living room is the play room. So we removed the toys to my room and now he is calm and is calm in my room. He thought it was the play room! I do clicker train though.
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Postby QUITTING DELETE ME » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:55 am

My Border Collie can't learn a trick unless someone demonstrates it to her! So how am I meant to teach her to roll over?
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