wolves - your opinon?

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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Alaskie » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:26 am

Bolt1784 wrote:
@mental racat
My thoughts exactly. Yes, wolves are stunning creatures, but they certainly don't
need more publicity than endangered species. People only seem to be
interested in fluffy and cute things. I mean, this is an endangered species:
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That's a California condor. Ever heard of one? No? Exactly.


Agreed! ^^ Wolves are my favourite animals for many reasons, but Californian Condors surely need a lot more awareness. There are way too many unknown animals that are near extinction D:
Good idea Predicament! Make a condor thread! >w<
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Predicament » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:42 am

yeah :( lol i will if i get time :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Bolt1784 » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:43 am

It's not just condors though, of course. Maybe there should be a thread for the more
unknown endangered animals, if there isn't already one active. c:

Also, another fact - it is suggested that black wolves have come about because of
interbreeding with domestic dogs. It's a genetic mutation. :)
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Predicament » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:47 am

i bet their is :/ i hope so!!! XDDDDD interbreding hm? cool!!!i never thought of that.maybe its a husky mutation :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Predicament » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:54 am

:mrgreen:
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Aralyn » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:41 pm

Wolves are one the animals that help maintain a balanced enviroment for other animals. I love them myself and think their cool.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Alaskie » Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:42 am

Aralyn wrote:Wolves are one the animals that help maintain a balanced enviroment for other animals. I love them myself and think their cool.


Yeah, a keystone species c: Much like lynx and other carnivores. A healthy number of them helps keep prey populations in check without human intervention. However if their numbers themselves grow too large, the only real way to avoid overpopulation is to reduce the numbers of wolves, bears, lynx, foxes etc in an area. Although I despise hunting (poaching mostly), and I will never attempt to hide this, maintaining a healthy amount of keystone and prey species is essential. Here in Britain, our only main carnivores are grey seals, foxes, badgers (Though these are omnivores) and some others, depending on region. As a result, deer, mice and some other species are becoming vast in numbers, devastating local landscapes and seeping further in to urban life. We used to have wolves (Roughly between 1485–1509, though there were reported sightings in 1680-1888 in Sutherland, Scotland) and being a keystone species, they could've dealt with this the natural way - nature's way.
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Fox Lairs » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:15 am

They should only be killed if it puts a family or something important in danger, and even then they could just be captured and moved to a new area.


Actually, the only thing wolves could possibly endanger is livestock, and even then, everybody (exception of Native Americans) came here long after wolves did, so it's really us doing the crime and intruding on the wolves' land...

I do a lot of research on wolves in my spare time and watch lots of nature documentaries. Wolves were hunted to extinction in Yellowstone; here's a clip from an article on a brief touch on how it happened:

The original wild wolves in Yellowstone were deliberately killed by the federal government during the period when it was government policy to exterminate the wolf everywhere, even inside national parks. The last wild wolves in the Park were killed in 1924 when two pups were killed near the hot spring cone, Soda Butte, near the mouth of the Soda Butte Creek Valley in the NE corner of the Park. A few wolves persisted in Wyoming until 1943 when the last was shot in the Owl Creek Mountains on the Wind River Indian Reservation. Even after this time, occasionally one or two wild wolves did migrate into NW Wyoming, but there is no evidence that they successfully formed packs. From an ecological standpoint, such lone wolves had no influence on the functioning of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. (Ralph Maughan, "History of the Greater Yellowstone wolf restoration")


Here is an image of the Yellowstone Wolf Hunts:
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This is why I don't believe in hunting unless absolutely necessary for food (i.e. grocery stores for basic necessities, home far from civilazation, or stranded somewhere) I simply despise the utterly stupid human race, it can just make me sick sometimes...
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Re: wolves - your opinon?

Postby Bolt1784 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:20 am

✧✦Honeyfern✦✧ wrote:
Actually, the only thing wolves could possibly endanger is livestock, and even then, everybody (exception of Native Americans) came here long after wolves did, so it's really us doing the crime and intruding on the wolves' land...

Not true. If wolves are overpopulated in certain areas, they begin to damage the
rest of the ecosystem, thus affecting other animals and plants negatively.
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Postby Canis2954 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:44 am

Bolt1784 wrote:
✧✦Honeyfern✦✧ wrote:
Actually, the only thing wolves could possibly endanger is livestock, and even then, everybody (exception of Native Americans) came here long after wolves did, so it's really us doing the crime and intruding on the wolves' land...

Not true. If wolves are overpopulated in certain areas, they begin to damage the
rest of the ecosystem, thus affecting other animals and plants negatively.


    Seconded. :>


✧✦Honeyfern✦✧ wrote:I do a lot of research on wolves in my spare time and watch lots of nature documentaries. Wolves were hunted to extinction in Yellowstone; here's a clip from an article on a brief touch on how it happened:

The original wild wolves in Yellowstone were deliberately killed by the federal government during the period when it was government policy to exterminate the wolf everywhere, even inside national parks. The last wild wolves in the Park were killed in 1924 when two pups were killed near the hot spring cone, Soda Butte, near the mouth of the Soda Butte Creek Valley in the NE corner of the Park. A few wolves persisted in Wyoming until 1943 when the last was shot in the Owl Creek Mountains on the Wind River Indian Reservation. Even after this time, occasionally one or two wild wolves did migrate into NW Wyoming, but there is no evidence that they successfully formed packs. From an ecological standpoint, such lone wolves had no influence on the functioning of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. (Ralph Maughan, "History of the Greater Yellowstone wolf restoration")


Here is an image of the Yellowstone Wolf Hunts:
Image(PBS)


This is why I don't believe in hunting unless absolutely necessary for food (i.e. grocery stores for basic necessities, home far from civilazation, or stranded somewhere) I simply despise the utterly stupid human race, it can just make me sick sometimes...


    Those are some beautiful furs! I'm a bit jealous. :0
    It's such a shame that they had to be hunted down so terribly, though. Wolf populations should really be balanced...
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