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Smokeyiscool:
@Luzien:
I swear I will reply to you later lol : ) Its been amazinngggg temperatures for January so we are taking advantage of it and working our cows around : )
Sure take your time
when the weather is bether you have to use all the time you can, that i understand fully!
you work your cows around, thats funny...the first time i did read this i did think you mean you learn them tricks...dont know what hit me there to think this...but this cow-work did not go out of my head till i did write this.
(do you know this clips on youtube where they work sheeps around with light- or glow sticks or whatever on there back...and they make pictures or words and so and this thought popped up i my head i think
or this jumping cow, or the group of cows (and one with horses) who play with a ball)
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Daughter of Hades:
Sorry for the long post, i try my best to write not much, but then it happens again^//^
For bether muscles in the back,
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http://www.reinholdshorsewellness.com/h ... rcise.html-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6bjK4Us1Ww-
http://www.thehorse.com/articles/29530/ ... educe-pain-
http://www.horseforum.com/horse-trainin ... ack-72621/-
http://www.naturalhorse.com/archive/vol ... cle_10.php-
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archi ... 37003.html-
He really sounds and looks great, and as you did say he has amazing cadence.
That is a nice future goal withdressage and jumping, and with him you will for sure have a great horse in your school shows^^
The competitive thinking will come in the future, i also had not much of this, and now i will compete when all goes well in endurance riding for the beginning^^
and with this horse you will get it for sure!.
Thats sad that your grooms cant work with them, but maybe ist also for the best as you have to do all the training work and get more closer to him.
And oh my....oh my...that was a crazzy accident...the poor guy...kick to the head...not sure if i should say that he is lucky that he only lost his one eye and did not die...lucky and unlucky on the same time.
I so understand that you cant ask him to go so much near a horse where he could get kicked again, and that will happen, when he has to get a horse or works with him... that he still works near horses to feed them or cleane there empty stalls says much about his character, he still liks them as it looks.
Kaz is a little spitfire sometimes yes? Jumping and playing in the lunge ring as it sound^^
“...loads of fun”...are you sure^^
Thats nice that he has not to much trouble, a thoroughbred from a family friend had so much trouble she was always to thin and got anything possible...she only got bether after she was on our stables pasture for holliday and no race for the rest of the year...she started to eat again, put on some weight as she was back in her own stable and also when racing....the best you can give is fresh fruit and good oil(like line seed oil, and strange as it is lots of living in the pasture )
but you say he gets constand healthy food that is good and will help him hold the weight, and he has no more stress and power work from racing^^ so you dont have to do much but training him^^
That we did also and the owner of our stable too, with some horses....front shoes and behind not.
Poor thing to crack his hoof (did this happen on the track or in his stall?)...hope that anything is good again.Do you feed him mineral-pellets? I did hear that often thoroughbred get problems with health as they dont get them.
Thank you again for pm'ing me the photos. I love the pictures
- you and him seem really good together, a nice team...sorry when i say something bad...the one picture with the male rider- he has a to strong hand with your boy he really looks not so happy, as when he is with you!
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Hime:- i found this but over a ottb...strange mild lameness(hope this helps) ....
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/archi ... 37003.htmlNo fresh grass, then mostlikely it cant be...we got a little little bit here and there but not much and the poor little greens die now as it got all muddy-icy cold....some tress are still frsted over, and fences...but not the ground there is muddy mud...
And you with you muddy paddocks that start to frost over... ^^ winter is grazy .
Yeah my first show was terrible too, i did not want to do something wrong, with foals ist easy as they are free or put with the leadline on a special girth on the mare, and you only have to walk-trot-toelt the mare and show her and set the foal free when the judge tells too, to let it run and hold the mare, later with the yearlings its a bit more different but not so hard, the most trouble you will have when you get to the breeding shows for young mares and stallions and later the older- but those the owner newer did himself, as there is way to much training, and you dont have a chance against the big breeders and there prof trainers,
But i think you will not have much trouble at the first show when you could get help from the owner of the place where Ty goes. The first shows are not so strict, and youre terrible show nerves will be more at ease^^.
And after the next shows you get a bit bether...atleast when there is not so much time between^^ i would go also crazy when i now had to show a horse...
.... lunging them...real lunging or like they do with arabian and akhal-teken who they let trot and galopp around them with rearing up and so on?...really never did see this with foals or weanling...,....is that a rule in your area, maybe they changed it, the last time i had to show a horse it was my girl with her foal, there was no lunging...only walking, trot-tölt on the hand and free first only foal than both together and some more walking with other horses together- when i did not forgot something again and the chip and branding.
But i so understand when it where my first foal i also would not want to do someting wrong...then really let the first and later the more importend shows do by someone who do this all the time^^
Yes, to true...: Anyway, nervous person+most likely nervous foal=disaster waiting to happen. ^^'
ohh...i did not mean the ears only, but that she may loose her hearing^//^...ist not often but i did hear that loosing hearing( or eye sight may) cause by horses nervosenes- shying away- they will become unsure, look around much-head goes all around sometimes even up and down, skittish to things they never did look at a second time. Running-walking around in smal circles...hitting the wall-doors..., spooking when a person comes to them, steping or jumping a bit back when you come to fast near them and then look as if they where hit, pawing the ground while standing- steping with small soft steps around-and when walking slower than normal-looking where they go sometimes with head down(when hearing is not so good anymore the head often to the side)....some you will not see as they show only very small signs of those, but some real bad cases will panic, race around, run down fences, try to get away as fast as possible and when there is a door they may try to get it down...., ...
Is the lower stable more light than the other? Or more open?
To be skittish more to one side can and most do show that they may not see or hear anymore or not good to this side!
Hope the vet finds what those mare has, if ist one of those you need to find her a horse she trusts more and is not so skittich when walking or in her stable...you may need to test long time till the right leeding horse! And she wil need lots of training to get her to trust fully again and learn to life and work with this.
The boots i did think about too, but the cloves sounds more nice, as the boots i now use are warm enough...or atleast this re-warm-again heat pocket warmer^^ the boots and cloves work with battery. But you have to look; some not so well worked boots get really hot, but i could once try a heated boot and they where nice but at this time to high prized...so around 240.
Thats cute, growing back teeth, now he is really a step near your next riding horse...they grow up so fast^^ give him some things to chew on and some hard bread this helps him, and scratching and soft massages as you did already....no wonder that he is a bit grumpy^^
The mare who did try to escape when seeing the wbs last time did now go through the fence? Really ...the next day-why?...such a stupid thing... maybe it was the shock that did come back to her at seeing the wb or she did hear the call of the wild and did try to be a mustang^^ she got detension in the inside, thats funny^_^
Hmm...stress by birth- foaling^^, ok when it was her first foal and she is build very small it may happen.
I looked this up, to not be to stupid as i may say something wrong^^ and for you to look at maybe somethings sound like your mare after the birth:
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http://www.thehorse.com/articles/10276/ ... s-in-mares-
http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/vhc/efac/equine ... issues.pdf-
http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/breeding/new ... z2rDqy21uo -http://www.vevs.com.au/site/articles/56-uncategorised/219-problems-in-the-mare-after-foaling.html
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http://americashorsedaily.com/mare-heal ... r-foaling/ -- -riding
But normaly i did hear from our vet that its positiv stress that she should not feel pain.(only when the foal lies wrong, ut then she would not have foaled at all so that is it not...)–not sure about this...some of the mares i did find where only tired but tending to there foals,...sadly never when they where giving birth but only after or some hours later...tricky mares to give birth when they know nobody is out....other did lie down with there foal or foal standing..or mother standing and foal lie down, sure tired and a bit sore but not badly hurt or anything
...did the vet not check her bevor and after the covering then he would tell you that you must be carefull when she is to small and may have trouble giving birth, and bring her to the clinic to give birth- i know this from an icelandic and thoroughbred.
Was Heta on her own as she was foaling, or was she with the herd outside?
When she was totally not herself right after foaling, and it was her first she really may be sore as you dont know how long the birth did take place.But most mares get there foal in the early morning.
How wet was Ty and how sweaty or tired Hets??
The old mare from us- as she got her foal some years ago- was so dead tired -head on the ground sweety like hell, breathing heavy(the vet did say it was a easy birth not as we did think a bad one, she did need a bit more time as she already was a bit older and her filly not the smallest that is why she was so tired and out of her mind that the other horses got neer her baby and tendet to it...normaly she let non to her babys)...and it was cool at this day....the foal did stand with thr foal of an other mare and an foal from last year.looking at his mother and getting cleaned by the one year old ^^ she only gone up half an hour later as her baby needed a drink^^
When you ever want a foal of her again, bring her to the clinic bevor she foals to be save, or atleast look for this bith-warning-girth.
And did the vet check her inside after the birth, maybe she had a small tissue wound, or really her hipbone got pushed out to much aat the birth, or she pulled something..?.but that only could the vet know not you!
When she was with other horses while foaling...could it be that there was a fight, and she got kicked...is a part of her hindhand deeper at the hip where the bone can easyly breek and grow together at a deeper part when the get hit at the door or a fence-pole or get kicked, than they need the chiro and other training to walk normal again. The one side may look a bit deeper than the other?
And the riding bareback sometime after the birth could not really hurt her, ateast as i think, it bether as the saddle, and you did not ride for long, dont worry. Ok i never did ride a mare with foal, but this is as my mare would go grazy with her foal out of sight and there are a lot of stupid becycle driver on the trails and small streets around...to risky, but i did hear from riders who did ride with mare and foal. Many rider ride also,only 2-3 weeks after the birth for a short time without much problems.
It was a good change for her, and you could not know that youre girl may get ill in the future only the vet could know and when he did not say anything bevor or after the birth ist not your fault.
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Circean:
Great that you had so much fun with the horse names Bogart^^
Sure Quarter Horses are not really breeded for dressage or so, but some are great in different areas that has nothing to do with western. In each bread of horse are horses that are not like most. So i wish you fun with this dressage loving quarter horse^^ and maybe you will see an jumping frisian one day too^^
Teeth ofter will not tell you the age of a horse, the vet who i did help some weeks long had two horses in that time where they had trouble finding the age, and the one looked older but had teeth of a younger horse, and the other looked like a 4 year but had teeth of a over 15year old...but have fun looking maybe you find the age that is like he looks^^
And that you still can ride him.
But one thing i have to ask you...only for fun do you have a pic of you and one of this pony so thati may know what you mean with this out growing^_^
You should ask the trainer that you want to ride this horse when you work good together!
When you feel unwell with the ponys, you should ride horses, and you pay for the lesson so the instructor has to help you get bether and feel well!!
–> or could you lease to part Bogo
Bogo will get bether with time and training, and to tax the jump, freestyle jumping does help the horse very much as no rider is on there back and the learn how and when to jump!
And some who have still a bit trouble with high jumping may jump bether wide.
Good luck and a lot of fun, and ask for him often instructors do this when your good for each other^^
To the pics:
–> its nice that you have fun with this and it looks good what you do^^
but may i ask you, that you do something, please dont hold to the reins when you try some tricks like standing on them and so, you could stumple fall back and down and pull the reins with you sharply( the mouth will be cut badly, or he can rear up and follow you to the ground hitting you) when you want a save line, put a thin sturdy rope on the saddle or so, or use open western reins. But anyway, be careful and have fun^^
and when you like this thing, maybe you should look around for a teacher of trick-hose-riding there you could learn more^^
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SassieC:Was this problem with the bit all the time, since you have him? Or did it happened someday out of the blue?
The bit problem is normaly typical when at some point at the training of the young horse it was forced to take it and this not so gentle...do you know where he was trained and if this maybe did happened there? But also hurting tooth or mouth are also a thing why he does not likes to be touched at the mouth, or an old cut in the tongue those can hurt still after years.
there are some tricks how to put the bite in the mouth without force:
- a bit honey on the finger and the bit, he may not want to take it the first time but it will get bether the next times
- stand on something to be higher than the horse head, or atleast be higher than you ar normal, so when the horses pushes its head up you still can reach it
- let the halter on till you got the bridle on so you have still some hold on the head
- use an bit with hanging snaps that you can hang-out...you know like those endurance bridles...you hang one side in and then softly hold it to his mouth then push on the bit on his mouth a little bit so that he takes it...you allso can feed him some slices of apple annd the put two around the hangng bit , so he smells the apple and eats it and you put the bit in with the apple and after this an other slice and then hang the side on the bridle
- or put the bridle on and dont go work!! but maybe let him eat some grass on the meadow, or walk him a bit, so that he learns, that not every time he gets the bit in he does not has to work.
–> and take your time and when you need an hour to get the bit in and if ist only for some seconds, step by slow step
He may have learned that bit =is hurt hurt, as the former owner may have used force to get it in, and then as you did say he may be overworked and head constantly in a headset.
But you can teach him that it does not has to, that it can also can be fun the same as when you ride bit-less and there he sounds as if he works good, this what you teached him for bitless riding, you can also teach for the bit^^
Its great that you ride most of the time bit-less!!
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June Bug: Sorry that your poor boy has to work so much, but it sounds as if he will be the next horse to be ill...so much work cant be good, the owner should tell the rider that have no horses, to stop till there horses are fit again, or that the should work with the lower level horses,
To your boy and bitless bridle, why not try it!^_^ and when you still want to try one other bit (as you may need one for shows as i downt know the rules if you can ride without one?!) after this, try a leather bit...but look who they say is bether, there are some really nice ones,... or an normal smaller bit, like aurigan double broken small bit, those are a bit higher prized but worth it
like this (we had some of those for sensitive horses, but i think some where smaller, not sure...)
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http://www.doversaddlery.com/herm-spren ... /X1-01340/-
http://www.doversaddlery.com/hs-kk-ultr ... /X1-01356/-
http://www.doversaddlery.com/hs-dynamic ... p/X1-0164/-