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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:04 am

gefpoo7 wrote:The black looks like part of the fish, not bumps. And we've been to a professional fish breeder/store (Called Aquatic & Exotic) and they said no more than the four we have. The fish are acting no different and we recently have had the water tested. Should we get it tested again and clean it again? I'll try to get photos posted soon.


what are the other types of cichlids? they grow quite large, the jack dempsy will also outgrow that tank and they are very territorial in such a small tank they will start fighting each other it is recomended they have atleast 55G, I had a jack dempsy that would beat up the oscar and eat anything in its tank

EDIT: the Venustus also requires 55G

maybe try aqadvisor.com and see what size tank you would need for your fish
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dakotak » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:07 am

gefpoo7 wrote:The black looks like part of the fish, not bumps. And we've been to a professional fish breeder/store (Called Aquatic & Exotic) and they said no more than the four we have. The fish are acting no different and we recently have had the water tested. Should we get it tested again and clean it again? I'll try to get photos posted soon.


Just beacuse a store claims to be experts does not mean they really are. And the owner may be but the employess may not be.
I claim to be Queen Dakotak, ruler of Pluto and home f the hexagon table. ;)
Its best to do your own research online/from books, espically since those sources are free and are not trying to sell you something.
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby gefpoo7 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:38 am

I have researched this place, and they seem right, but we are planning on getting a bigger tank. Possible sizes?
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:39 am

gefpoo7 wrote:I have researched this place, and they seem right, but we are planning on getting a bigger tank. Possible sizes?



what are the fish that will be in the tank?
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby gefpoo7 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:40 am

Just these four we have, plus a pleco. We've been planning on getting one when we get a bigger tank
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:50 am

gefpoo7 wrote:Just these four we have, plus a pleco. We've been planning on getting one when we get a bigger tank


so ones a jack dempsy the other is a Venustus what are the other two? also most pleco get huge and require 60G+
common pleco require atleast 100G
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby gefpoo7 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:56 am

I know -.- My friends have one and they have a 100G tank. One's a Auratus (yellow with black stripes) and the other is a demasoni (Black and blue)
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:04 pm

this is what I got using aqadvisor for your current set up:
Warning: Jack Dempsey is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 10 inches.
Warning: Melanochromis Auratus is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 4 inches.
Warning: At least 5 x Melanochromis Auratus are recommended in a group.
Warning: Melanochromis Auratus is not recommended to be with Jack Dempsey - mbuna species should not be mixed with other groups.
Warning: Melanochromis Auratus is not recommended to be with Nimbochromis Venustus - mbuna species should not be mixed with other groups.
Warning: Pseudotropheus Demasoni is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 3 inches.
Warning: Pseudotropheus Demasoni is not recommended to be with Jack Dempsey - mbuna species should not be mixed with other groups.
Warning: Pseudotropheus Demasoni is not recommended to be with Nimbochromis Venustus - mbuna species should not be mixed with other groups.
Warning: Nimbochromis Venustus is not recommended for your tank - it may eventually outgrow your tank space, potentially reaching up to 9 inches.
Warning: Nimbochromis Venustus is not recommended to be with Jack Dempsey - lake Malawi species should not be mixed with other groups including mbuna species.
Warning: Nimbochromis Venustus is not recommended to be with Melanochromis Auratus - lake Malawi species should not be mixed with other groups including mbuna species.
Warning: Nimbochromis Venustus is not recommended to be with Pseudotropheus Demasoni - lake Malawi species should not be mixed with other groups including mbuna species.
Note: You have selected mbuna species. These species in general, need to be overstocked to control aggression (over 100% stocking level). Make sure your filtration is sufficient and keep up with water changes. (Read more about beginner mbuna species here).


Warning: Your selected species may eventually require 182% of your aquarium space. You may need to deal with territorial aggressions later on. Try removing some of (Rocio octofasciatum) or get a larger tank.

Recommended temperature range: 25 - 27 C. [Display in Farenheit]
Recommended pH range: 7.6 - 7.8.
Recommended hardness range: 10 - 15 dH.



Recommended water change schedule: 77% per week. (You might want to split this water change schedule to two separate 52% per week)
Your aquarium stocking level is 225%.
Your tank is seriously overstocked. Unless this setup is temporary, you should consider a larger tank. [Generate Image]

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you would need a minimum 60G-70G tank for your cichlids and about 100G if you add a large pleco
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Kiara20 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:41 pm

So I looked into Peeta's tank today and his eye is red O_o Just the right one not the left. I think it might be popeye but I'm not sure. He's swimming around like normal and is eating good. Since I only have the snails in the tank with him its okay to use aquarium salt right?
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Re: Fish Lovers 2.0

Postby Dappled Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:45 pm

Kiara20 wrote:So I looked into Peeta's tank today and his eye is red O_o Just the right one not the left. I think it might be popeye but I'm not sure. He's swimming around like normal and is eating good. Since I only have the snails in the tank with him its okay to use aquarium salt right?


not really, snails dont like salt but they can tolerate a small amount

Apple snails tolerate little amounts of salt if you slowly build up the concentration. Be sure that the salt is dissolved before you put it in the tank so that the snail won't get in contact with the pure stuff.
If you see that the snails stay in their shell for more than a day, then lower the salt concentration
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