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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby Lonin » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:43 am

If you're feeding them pretty much just rice then they would be better off on pedigree or any dog food. We don't know much about dogs but we're pretty sure just rice and maybe a few bones isn't going to be a balanced diet or providing all the nutrients they need. You need to either do a whole lot more research on balanced diets for dogs or switch back to actual dog food. Please don't keep feeidng your dogs nothing but rice, they'll probably die :c
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby WilloweWolf » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:09 am

Actually, they're quite healthy. Healthier than before. I could swear the male is half muscle, half brick (brains included, but...). The female is actually a tad pudgy.
Pippin(the female. please note that she's a street mutt, and, as a result, is small.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby Angelus Gaston » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:20 am


Rice really shouldn't be given as a substitute for dog food as its not good for a dog as its mainly a carbohydrate with very little protein.

Yes the dogs may look good know but with little protein its not very healthy for them and its main use is a filler in foods.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby fairytale. » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:41 am

Pedigree may be the "good stuff" where you live, but that doesn't make it "good" in the big picture. Foods like Pedigree contain a lot of fillers, odd chemicals, questionable protein sources, and synthetic vitamins that aren't approved for use in human foods (for good reason!).
I'm going to echo what everyone else is saying, a diet of mainly rice is not healthy. In general, if you are feeding a cooked diet, it should be no more than 50% carbohydrates. Cooked bones are also dangerous.
I'm not sure what is available near you, but I have a plethora of cooked dog food recipes I would be happy to share if you are interested. They may not be 100% balanced, especially for the recipes that do not specify which veggies to use, BUT that is why variety is key and you should change the recipes and ingredients you use.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby Shiny Sylveon » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:28 pm

I believe in animal rights, and I believe it is stupid that pets are being fed toxins in their food. Byproducts on the other hand...I'm still trying to sort out my thoughts on them. I mean, on one hand, dogs were wolves, and they would eat everything, and as long as it's not the main thing being served, it should be fine. On the other hand, I wouldn't want my dog to be eating chicken eyes and liver...and dogs aren't wolves I guess...I'll have to get back with that...

(also, I have fed my dog Blue, what may they have in it? My interest is peaked.)
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby fairytale. » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:26 pm

Those of us who feed raw MUST include odds and ends like liver, kidney, heart, spleen, etc., so those sorts of things (and even eyes) are actually a valuable part of their diet. By-products also contain things like feathers, feet, beaks, and other parts of animals that aren't very nutritious. My problems with by-products is that you never know what is in it (especially when they just say they are "meat by-products", like, what animals are we talking about?), they're sketchy as heck, and as a whole, they are not going to be as nutritious as actual muscle meat. By-products are basically anything humans toss in the garbage after butchering an animal. Dogs may not be wolves, but they are carnivores (or omnivores, depends on who you ask...), and are meant to eat other animals. We didn't domesticate dogs to eat around parts they aren't "supposed" to eat :) Just because eyeballs gross you out doesn't mean your dog won't love them and benefit from them!
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby Cardinal » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:26 pm

Wolvesrfun wrote:I believe in animal rights, and I believe it is stupid that pets are being fed toxins in their food. Byproducts on the other hand...I'm still trying to sort out my thoughts on them. I mean, on one hand, dogs were wolves, and they would eat everything, and as long as it's not the main thing being served, it should be fine. On the other hand, I wouldn't want my dog to be eating chicken eyes and liver...and dogs aren't wolves I guess...I'll have to get back with that...

(also, I have fed my dog Blue, what may they have in it? My interest is peaked.)


Lol, my dogs eat eyes and livers. xP

The problem with byproducts in kibble is that they use the cheapest sources and its not quality meat, its the cast offs of the human food industry, heads and boney frames with little quality control. I mean I feed heads and boney frames but the dogs also get nutritious lean muscle meat and other quality ingridents.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby FuzzyThePunkCat » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:45 pm

Liver is a HUGE part of the raw diet, mine eat it daily.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby Jazi » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:39 am

While byproduct is a necessary part of any carnivore's diet, most cheaper foods (such as pedigree etc) [I]only[\i] use byproduct in their kibbles... Which creates the nutrition imbalance. This is why I refuse to say that raw is "easy"- it's more than slapping a steak and a pair of eyes in front of your dog, just like it's more than thinking meat is meat and doing something like only feeding heart and liver.

In addition- a dog fed just plain rice is not being fed properly, and will eventually begin to have nutrient deficiencies on such a diet. I understand you also feed some cooked meat and bones (cooked bone is more prone to splintering and is very dangerous), but what you're feeding honestly isn't much better than feeding Pedigree. And, remember, there are plenty of healthy looking people who eat McDonald's every day. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to do so.
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Re: I used to feed my doggy poison. :D

Postby WilloweWolf » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:56 am

fairytale. wrote:Pedigree may be the "good stuff" where you live, but that doesn't make it "good" in the big picture. Foods like Pedigree contain a lot of fillers, odd chemicals, questionable protein sources, and synthetic vitamins that aren't approved for use in human foods (for good reason!).
I'm going to echo what everyone else is saying, a diet of mainly rice is not healthy. In general, if you are feeding a cooked diet, it should be no more than 50% carbohydrates. Cooked bones are also dangerous.
I'm not sure what is available near you, but I have a plethora of cooked dog food recipes I would be happy to share if you are interested. They may not be 100% balanced, especially for the recipes that do not specify which veggies to use, BUT that is why variety is key and you should change the recipes and ingredients you use.

First of all, I never said the Pedigree was good, I just said that it was better than most of what we can get here. It's also darn expensive. Any kibble at all is expensive here.
The bones we give them are raw. Well, our leftover pork chop bones aren't, but...
We've become wary of the store bought dog foods here that aren't kibble, because our former dog died. It seems the food we had been feeding her had been tested for aflo toxin (or however you spell it), and the stuff was in it. But, they refrained from mentioning that. :roll: So, her liver failed and she died. For a while our dogs now were getting kibble in the morning and posho (casava mush) in the evening. Then, Shadow, the oldest dog, proved to be allergic to the posho, so we switched them to rice and kibble, but Shadow had an egg every morning instead. But, Shadow died last year (she was old and had skin problems, etc. Not the healthiest dog, I'll admit), and now Whittie and Pippin get rice for breakfast, and the occasional bone. I do believe the watchman mixes some veggies in with the rice.
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