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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (2 Bids)

Postby Pat Stump » Sat May 16, 2015 7:47 pm

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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (2 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sat May 16, 2015 9:01 pm

Takk wrote:
The "Main" Rares List

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

Please note!!! Any OMG So Rare Pet that is below 'the big gap' will at some point be moved up on the list! i've made them red to find them easier. These pets should not be traded for their list value!

Sunjewel = UR Tiger Dog
Moonswirl
UR B-Wolf
Plains Zebra = Grevy's Zebra
Mountain Zebra = Dogtag = Skelebun
UR Cat
UR Banana = UR Cucumber
July PPS = Coontail Dog =Sunback = UR Bee = UR Zonkey = UR Rat
UR Aussie/Cookie dog = UR Phoenix = Ur CinnaBun = UR foal
UR Lion
Nonjewel Sundog = Non-Coon Dog = Non-Swirl Moon Dog = Non-Tag = UR Malk
UR Peach
UR Flower Pot = UR Holly Dog
Growing White July = UR Pineapple
Nick Unicorn = UR Mint Horse
--- Big Gap ---&
Spotted Tribal = BE Galaxy
Purple Toxic
CE Galaxy
Blue Toxic
Blue Sorbet = Green Sorbet = Yellow Sorbet = Pink Sorbet = UR Grapes
Joker
UR Butterbun* = Gearback Tribal
Red Toxic = 09 UR Dog
Green Toxic = Yellow Toxic
Nonballoon = UR Bengal Cat
Line Tribal = Joker Bunny = UR Ice Cat
Rainbow Mane
Pink Balloon = Blue Balloon = Winged Wood Angel = Orange Cerberus
Light Speckled Rat = Medium Speckled Rat = Heavy Speckled Rat
UR Purple Horse = UR Apple = Dark Heart Rat
Skeleton PPS
Rose PPS = Dark Pink Shima B-Wolf = Blue Dragon PPS
Red-X PPS = Wolf PPS

*UR Butterbun is not actually UR, just named for the UR Butterfly Wolf it was designed after.
&
What does the big gap mean?
It's the point from which the gaps between pets start to get bigger. For example, the gap between the non tier and the coontail tier is a full non, the coontail is worth 2 nons. Fun fact; the big gap was misplaced from the start so the pets around the big gap have actually the smallest gaps between them! gaps don't start getting bigger until after the non tier, for more info see the gaps list.


Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List
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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (2 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 11:02 am

kee; wrote:
The September List

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

Please note!!! Any OMG So Rare Pet that is below 'the big gap' will at some point be moved up on the list! i've made them red to find them easier. These pets should not be traded for their list value!

Tier 13 (Highest) wrote:Dark Leopard = Black Advent




Tier 11 wrote:Blue Rose = Red-X = Angel Advent


Tier 10 wrote:Purple Batdog =Drink Me


Tier 9 wrote:Lime Ice Rat










Tier 4 wrote:Scarf PPS


Tier 3 wrote:Target Dog






Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List
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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (1 Bids)

Postby Brenton » Sun May 17, 2015 11:08 am

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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (2 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 11:09 am

nickjr wrote:
The Advent List
if a pet is in the same group as another, that means it is worth THE SAME!

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

Tier 10 (highest) wrote:Sockdog, Green-fronted Holly dog




















Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List
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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (2 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 11:30 am

nickjr wrote:
Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

Thank you to...
Keatchi, Deja, Jeweled, Chryseis, DiabolicReality, Solloby, Atwood, Starstreak, Australia09, Seasonal, Hekomi, DaDwarf, Pideaux
And Many, Many Others


FAQ
Except for the questions marked by NEW!, THIS WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2012 OR EARLIER.
Most of these are still 100% relevant, but there are some questions that need updates. And I will add new FAQs that have popped up over the last 7+ years.
-nickjr


    So is this purely about rarity or is there demand mixed in?
    I think I read earlier that this list is a combination of rarity and demand - which kinda converge in a way that creates a pet's "worth." Even though a pet like the BMD is just as rare as any other of those Advent outcomes, you couldn't expect anyone to trade it for like, a Cream Advent. Rarity is how many pets are out there, and demand affects their availability.


    NEW!
    If this list already includes demand, why are people asking for more "because of demand"?
    (The following answer was wrangled with permission)
    This list was created to give people an overview of how the mix of rarity and popularity could influence a pet's value.

    For example, comparing the CE Galaxy and the Spotted Tribal, which used to be valued roughly the same a long, long time ago: The CE Galaxy is not particularly rare for its release time. It was available for both July and August 2008, and the litter was well-liked and thus adopted a lot. The Spotted Tribal from August 2008, on the other hand, is the rarest of its litter.
    But because one of them is really well liked and the other was just average, they were often valued around the same as a "Your Tribal is rarer, but people like my CEG a lot more" kind of deal.

    But over time this has become a lot more difficult for people to decipher, especially with pets whose demand has caused them to be placed wildly differently from similarly rare pets.
    To name two examples, we have the Black Advent and the Light Pawprint rat.
    The BA is technically as rare as the rest of its litter, but someone who is inexperienced, someone who uses the list because they're not very knowledgeable about values, might not realize that.
    How is someone like that supposed to know which pets are placed above their littermates because they're rarer, and which ones are just really popular?
    Someone who doesn't have background knowledge on the pets might think the BA was notably rarer than other Advents, because there's no clear indication that the BA is as rare as its littermates and is only placed higher because of demand.
    And while the Light Pawprint rat was VR, a casual player wouldn't have been able to tell that it was much rarer than all of the September pets that it was sandwiched between and was just put there because it wasn't well-liked.

    Over time, the reasons behind pet placements have faded into obscurity.


    Wait! You guys and the rarity on the actual pet disagree... I'm so confused! Oh, and why can't I get an uncommon Jan 09 for an uncommon January 2010?
    All new players need to do is look at the rarity and then look at the date. There is a 3 month "rule" so to speak. If the pet you want is an uncommon from January 09, and your offering an uncommon from March 09, then people will likely trade. You have to take dates into account. So, if you have an uncommon from March 2010, and you want an uncommon from January 09, then people wont trade with you. . . as there is a year between the adoption dates. The older a pet is, the harder to obtain it becomes and the more you have to pay for it. But keep in mind that people have their own rarity system that you can't see. . . to be safe in your trades, try your best to offer someone something off their wishlist. If you can't offer something on their wishlist and you want a "Very Rare" pet then they will most likely get angry at you. So stick to what they want, or try to get the more common pets on your wishlist, before you go after the really rare pets . . .


    Ugh, everybody just can't decide who is rarer! How about we go ask Nick for some statistics?
    I PMed nick this message.

    Hi Nick.

    We where wondering if you or tess would mind helping us with this list, Forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=112366 as no one can deside on what rarest in order. So would you or tess have that kind of data that you would share


    Regards

    Nick wrote:Yes, we have that information but no, we have no plans to share it. Sorry.. :)

    ok that my reply from nick so there goes that idea


    What's the difference between demand and rarity? I just don't get it.
    Value is a different thing from rarity anyway - there may be more Sunbacks on CS than Dogtags, but there also a lot more Sundog hoarders because they're such a popular design, so there may be fewer Sunbacks actually available than there are Dogtags. To assess functional rarity you have to look at how many are in circulation, which you can only find out from other traders. ;)


    I offered a Green Toxic for a Yellow Toxic, which both are equal to each other on the same list, and they cancelled the trade!
    Well, you have to bear in mind that though we try to perfect this list, there is always going to be a few errors- Use this as a helper, not a must use handbook. ;)
    While peoples individual views of a pet's value don't affect its actual rarity, they do absolutely affect what will happen when you are trading with said individual. Just because two pets are a fair swap for one another doesn't mean your trade partner has to accept.

    Now I offered a Red Toxic and a Sorbet for a Yellow Toxic, which is more than enough, and they cancelled the trade because they didn't like either of the dogs I offered! How is that fair??? :evil:
    The thing about pets is, its all about what people are WILLING to trade them for. There are like 3 groups on CS. The People who KNOW their rarities and who will pay a sun jewel for a zebra. Then there are people who just trade what they think is a good trade, as in they will trade a rainbow mane for a guinea pig because they prefer the guinea pig to the horse. And then there are the people who are only interested in adopting and care nothing for rarity or value. And those people are often the new players who get ninja'd and scammed. Store items are a bit of a hassle as well, because people like me who pay REAL money for the items, dont want to trade them away for just a common pet from the past few months. . . . Its all about supply, demand and what people are willing to actually pay for . . . its hardly every about rarity and value. . . . to be honest its more about looks xD


    The list of pets by demand doesn't look right! A lot more people want the Gray Dragon than the Sun dog!
    This Is The Technically Correct Version by how many users have them on their wishlist, while ours is just one mixed with rarity and demand. Supply and demand, catch my drift?


    Note: All these were answered by different users - Their names removed for privacy reasons.

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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (3 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 12:07 pm

Animall wrote:

Key:
Non-dog = non swirl/tag/coon/jewel
Sorbet = any color
CEG = Clear Eyed Galaxy
BEG = Black Eyed Galaxy

Main List

High Julies

Mid Julies

Low Julies

Lowest Julies
GAP

High Augusts

Mid Augusts

Low Augusts


September List

High Septembers
    Tier 13 (Highest) Dark Leopard - Grey Dragon & Mini Husky
    Tier 12 Grey Dragon - Blue Rose & Seal PPS
    Tier 10 Blue Rose - Purple Batdog & Candy Cane Horse or 7 mid advents
    Tier 10 Purple Batdog - Cake Dog & Candy Cane Horse
    Tier 9 Lime Ice Rat Cake Dog + a little more. (this gap is extremely small.)

Mid Septembers

Low Septembers
    Tier 4 Scarf PPS - Target Dog & Mini Husky
    Tier 3 Target Dog - Light Leopard & Early '09 Rare Dog
    Tier 2 Light Leopard - Red Dragon & Early '09 Rare Dog
    Tier 1 (Lowest) Red Dragon - 2 Mid Advents or Low&High Advent


Advents List

High Advents
    Tier 10 (Highest) Sockdog - 10 Mixed 09 Rares
    Tier 9 Hyena - 8-9 Mixed 09 Rares
    Tier 8 Teal Butterbun - 7-8 Mixed 09 Rares + an 09 Uncommon

Mid Advents

Low Advents


Short cuts!
Sunjewel = 5 nons
Any Non dog = 3 sorbets
Any Sorbet = 2 green toxics
Green/Yellow toxic = 2 balloon dogs
Pink/Blue balloon dog = 21 mid-advents or 3 blue roses
Blue rose = 7 mid-advents
Mid-advent (tier 7/8) = 7 09 mixed rares



Hekomi wrote:DaDwarf and Trouble did most of the work with the September list! I barely tweaked their values, so this should be credited and thanked to THEM not to me. I will be adding, editing, etc. if necessary.


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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (3 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 1:00 pm

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Takk wrote:
The "Main" PICTURE Rares List

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

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Sunjewel = UR Tiger Dog

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Moonswirl

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UR B-Wolf

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Plains Zebra = Grevy's Zebra

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Mountain Zebra = Dogtag = Skelebun

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UR Cat

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UR Banana = UR Cucumber

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July PPS = Coontail Dog = Sunback = UR Bee = UR Zonkey = UR Rat

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UR Aussie/Cookie dog = UR Phoenix = UR CinnaBun = UR Foal

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UR Lion

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Nonjewel Sundog = Non-Coon Dog = Non-Swirl Moon Dog = Non-Tag = UR Malk

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UR Peach

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UR Flower Pot = UR Holly Dog

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Growing White July = UR Pineapple

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Nick Unicorn = UR Mint Horse

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List


Takk wrote:
--- Big Gap ---&

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

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Spotted Tribal = Black Eyed Galaxy (BEG)

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Purple Toxic

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Clear Eyed Galaxy (CEG)

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Blue Toxic

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Blue Sorbet =Green Sorbet =Yellow Sorbet = Pink Sorbet = UR Grapes

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Joker

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UR Butterbun* = Gearback Tribal

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Red Toxic = UR Dog

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Green Toxic = Yellow Toxic

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Nonballoon = UR Bengal Cat

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Line Tribal = Joker Bunny = UR Ice Cat

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Rainbow Mane

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Pink Balloon = Blue Balloon = Winged Wood Angel = Orange Cerberus

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Light Speckled Rat = Medium Speckled Rat = Heavy Speckled Rat

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UR Purple Horse = UR Apple = Dark Heart Rat

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Skeleton PPS

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Rose PPS = Dark Pink Shima B-Wolf = Blue Dragon PPS

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Red-X PPS = Wolf PPS

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List
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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (3 Bids)

Postby Husky Life » Sun May 17, 2015 1:09 pm

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Re: UFA: White PPS Dragon Store Pet (3 Bids)

Postby Magen » Sun May 17, 2015 2:17 pm

kee; wrote:
The September List

Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List

Tier 13 (Highest) wrote:ImageImage
Dark Leopard = Black Advent


Tier 12 wrote:ImageImage
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Grey Dragon = Devil/Blood PPS = Blue Ice Rat


Tier 11 wrote:ImageImageImage
Blue Rose = Red-X = Angel Advent


Tier 10 wrote:ImageImage
Purple Batdog = Drink Me


Tier 9 wrote:Image
Lime Ice Rat


Tier 8 wrote:ImageImageImageImageImageImage
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Pink Cake Dog = Rainbow Cake Dog = Light Cake Dog = Tricolour Cake Dog = Lexi Cake Dog = White Dragon = Dark Pawprint Rat = Skull Rat



Tier 7 wrote:ImageImage
Flop-eared Pink September = Palomino Tess Horse


Tier 6 wrote:ImageImageImageImageImageImage
Red Rose = BMD = Sunjewel Bunny = Light Pawprint Rat = Light Heart Rat = Flower/Toxic Rat


Tier 5 wrote:ImageImage
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Pink Striped September = Pink Patchy September = Eat Me = Winged Blood Dog = Blue Rat = Brown Sleipnir


Tier 4 wrote:Image
Scarf PPS


Tier 3 wrote:Image
Target Dog


Tier 2 wrote:ImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImage
Light Leopard = Orange Grinner = Blue Grinner = Red Grinner = Green Grinner = Pink Grinner = Purple Grinner = = Halloween Cat = Green Liontail


Tier 1 (lowest) wrote:Image Image
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Red Dragon= Red Cerberus = Jeweled Liontail = Nonjewel Liontail



Index:
Poll post - Discussions List - Main information post - Recent Updates - Main's List - September's List - Advent's List - FAQ - Gap's list - Important Links - Pictured Main's List 1 - Pictured Main's List 2 - Pictured September's List - Pictured Advent's List
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