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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Eveningsdawn » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:51 pm

Raising humans for eating actually makes no sense, though - we eat more food than we have food to give, like most carnivores and omnivores. However, if we eat, like... enemies captured in battle, or our own dead...? That's a fairly sound choice.






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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Prinz » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:00 pm

Erille, the word you're after is "ancestor". XD "Ansector" sounds like "ant sector", which makes me think of Andrea the giant ant-eating nose-face (does she have an account here, lolo? where is she? that blood traitor hasn't greeted me!)

Also, I'd rather starve than eat Edie or her form. x__x But I wouldn't mind eating Alex/C-saurus or Zoe. :D

...I'd rather just keep eating what I'm eating atm, though (peanuts and roasted sunflower seeds; I love nuts and seeds, that's why my form is a herbivore, like totally ;D).
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Mewsly » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:22 pm

Eveningsdawn wrote:Raising humans for eating actually makes no sense, though - we eat more food than we have food to give, like most carnivores and omnivores. However, if we eat, like... enemies captured in battle, or our own dead...? That's a fairly sound choice.

Uh, wat xD? It's been scientifically proven that cannibalism is not good for your health. Aside from that fact that there are actually laws against murder and manslaughter (etc.), it's actually less healthy to eat human meat because of the vast number of diseases, parasites, pathogens, and so on that you can acquire through ingestion. Human to human pathogens are hard to avoid when you're ingesting the flesh of your own kind (it happens among animals too, mad cow disease, anyone?). Kuru, for instance, is something I would not like to have. Yum, yum, prion disease! I really would not say that it's a fairly sound choice xD

However, presented with the choice to either die of starvation or eat someone, I'd obviously eat someone for self-preservation reasons.
Devil Flamingo wrote:Also, I'd rather starve than eat Edie or her form. x__x But I wouldn't mind eating Alex/C-saurus or Zoe. :D

...I'd rather just keep eating what I'm eating atm, though (peanuts and roasted sunflower seeds; I love nuts and seeds, that's why my form is a herbivore, like totally ;D).

I would eat you first >:C

Also yes sunflower seeds! I used to be some sort of addicted to them when I was about 9, and I still love them. People used to freak out when I used to eat the shells. I also took in hemp seeds mixed with sesame seeds and sunflower seeds into school and said it was gerbil food. People thought I was srs and thought I was possessed |D
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Cinereus » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:29 pm

Do I spy a Prince lurking in our midst? ;D I would welcome you fully but a) I'm currently trying not to fall asleep and b) I see everyone else has done a wonderful job already. Com, Marius, etc, etc.

As far as cannibalism goes, I'm partial to livers, but babies are good, too - nice and crunchy.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Erille » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:31 pm

Weird . . . The point is that most animals might eat their babies under stress or traumua.

Speaking of which, I think there is a species of bird called the Cukoo bird or something like that. The mother Cukoo bird lays it's egg say in like a robin's nest. And if the robin's nest already has eggs in it, the Cukoo chick, when it hatches, will push the other babies or eggs out of the nest. Then the Cukoo bird forces the mom birdto feed it.

Some animals are just cruel.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Mewsly » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:48 pm

Erille wrote:Weird . . . The point is that most animals might eat their babies under stress or traumua.

Speaking of which, I think there is a species of bird called the Cukoo bird or something like that. The mother Cukoo bird lays it's egg say in like a robin's nest. And if the robin's nest already has eggs in it, the Cukoo chick, when it hatches, will push the other babies or eggs out of the nest. Then the Cukoo bird forces the mom birdto feed it.

Some animals are just cruel.

xD that's not cruel, animals don't really have any perception of 'cruel', it's just a survival method. I looked into cuckoos back in the day, for that very reason (emus do something similar, yeeeey). What you're talking about is called brood parasitism, btw.
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Postby Erille » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:50 pm

I meant "cruel" like in my perspective. I know animals don't know the perspective of "cruel".
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Scarf » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:56 pm

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Eveningsdawn wrote:Raising humans for eating actually makes no sense, though - we eat more food than we have food to give, like most carnivores and omnivores. However, if we eat, like... enemies captured in battle, or our own dead...? That's a fairly sound choice.

Uh, wat xD? It's been scientifically proven that cannibalism is not good for your health. Aside from that fact that there are actually laws against murder and manslaughter (etc.), it's actually less healthy to eat human meat because of the vast number of diseases, parasites, pathogens, and so on that you can acquire through ingestion. Human to human pathogens are hard to avoid when you're ingesting the flesh of your own kind (it happens among animals too, mad cow disease, anyone?). Kuru, for instance, is something I would not like to have. Yum, yum, prion disease! I really would not say that it's a fairly sound choice xD

Ooh, my point was just summarising what I got from one of my nutrition lectures :D It's true that humans are full of yuck and stuff that you wouldn't want to eat, the only point that I was making was that your metabolism has less to do if you're eating something with the same protein makeup as you, so by that token human meat is good.
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Erille wrote:Speaking of which, I think there is a species of bird called the Cukoo bird or something like that. The mother Cukoo bird lays it's egg say in like a robin's nest. And if the robin's nest already has eggs in it, the Cukoo chick, when it hatches, will push the other babies or eggs out of the nest. Then the Cukoo bird forces the mom birdto feed it.

There are lots of species of cuckoo (like my aforementioned flying-form-that-doesn't-look-like-tree). Channel bills do it to kookaburras and currawongs around here.
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Prinz » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:57 pm

XD By that logic, every animal is cruel, and we apes (especially us humans!) are the cruelest. :D We do things that make brooding parasitism look nice.

I don't think of nature as cruel, not really. A pine marten isn't cruel for eating a baby grouse, and an older male grouse isn't cruel for basically depriving young grouse males from having sex (the older, more experience, usually alpha males are usually the ones that get most if not all the ladies, while the runner-ups get no sexytiem whatsoever). Animals do what they have to do to survive. To us humans it may seem cruel (and hell, maybe it is, but I don't see it as bad), but critters do what they hafta to survive. And if that means parasiting other birds' nests, then so be it. If it was evolutionarily purpose-less or not overall beneficial, then such behaviour wouldn't still be present in cuckoos, or it'd occur less.

And give some credit to the animal world. ;D Robins aren't endangered because cuckoos kick out robin chicks. And some birds do take notice of the cuckoo egg and kick it out, while others have evolved strategies to prevent cuckoos from getting in their nests and laying eggs (African weaverbirds, I think they're called). So the female cuckoos' strategy to get other birds to raise her eggs is not totally fool-proof (but then, I can't think of anything in this world that is, lol).
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Re: The Daemian Union (TDU) (Posting open! Welcome!)

Postby Mewsly » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:05 pm

Erille wrote:I meant "cruel" like in my perspective. I know animals don't know the perspective of "cruel".

rofl perspective (you mean perception ;P). Well, 'cruel' pretty much means "deliberately inflicting pain/suffering to someone/something, an indifference to the pain/suffering you are inflicting or taking pleasure in the pain/suffering you are causing" (usually I would use/look for the latter more in how the word is used), so I still wouldn't say "I perceive this animal to be cruel", cause it's not correct usage xD However, I understand that you meant to say something more like "this animal's behaviour, if we were to impose human society rules and regulations upon it, would be deemed cruel to other animals".

Scarf wrote:Ooh, my point was just summarising what I got from one of my nutrition lectures :D It's true that humans are full of yuck and stuff that you wouldn't want to eat, the only point that I was making was that your metabolism has less to do if you're eating something with the same protein makeup as you, so by that token human meat is good.
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Dude humans are so full of yummy protein that I would eat them up like candy (if not for all the brain malfunction and unyummy stuff that could happen to me, sigh)! In that sense yeah they're the most deliciously nutritious (om nom nom). I figured that was what you were talking about, but I wanted to clarify that Edie's saying "That seems like a pretty sound choice" was kind of... really not xD
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