The Daemian Union (TDU) V2 (POSTING OPEN!)

[booklover789]

I have a question, can large animals be daemons? Such as horses or Buffalo? Just curious ^^

Lord Amazilion and Sayan Kötör are correct - your daemon can be as large or as small as you'd like it to be. Whatever form you think fits you best is the form it should be, no matter how big it is. Take for instance two of my daemon's forms: a white mouse and a German Shepherd. Two completely different forms, yes. When I'm in a large area, he sometimes is a German Shepherd; but when I'm in a small area with not a whole lot of room, then he's a white mouse. He changes due to the environment I'm in and what my mood happens to be. XD

Hope that answered your question!

What personality traits would you use to describe your dæmon? Is s/he similar to you or more of your opposite?

Oh and I have a question for you guys, how do you pronounce dæmian? Is it like DEE-mee-an or DAY-mian or something else?? I know dæmon can be DEE-mon like "demon" or "DAY-mon" with more emphasis on the "a" sound but is that the same for "dæmian"?

I personally pronounce it DAY-mun, though in the movie it's pronounced DEE-mun. According to wikipedia, the "a" sound in Daemon is pronounced like the "a" sound in the word "trap." So, it would be pronounced DA-mun.
Also, it's spelled "Dæmon," not "Dæmian." (That is, if you live in America. In Norway, Serbia, Sweden, Italy, and Finland it's spelled "daimon," and seeing as it's a different spelling, it may be pronounced differently.)

[Shinryu]

Also, it's spelled "Dæmon," not "Dæmian." (That is, if you live in America. In Norway, Serbia, Sweden, Italy, and Finland it's spelled "daimon," and seeing as it's a different spelling, it may be pronounced differently.)

They meant daemian, the person a daemon belongs to ;)

I personally always pronounced Dæmon the same as I would "Dämon", the German word for "demon". Which, if æ really is pronounced like the a in "trap", should be about correct. (There is a difference between ä and æ, but it does require some concentration for me to pronounce it even soooomewhat properly, so most the time it just ends up as ä xD I envy the people who grew up speaking a language that knows the sound. It works well enough in my head, but when I try to say it out loud, I fail.)
My reasoning for that, however, is less that I always knew how to pronounce the æ, and more that "ae" can be used as a substitute for the umlaut ä, especially by people whose keyboards don't have the letter. (Although a great number have the amusing habit of simply typing a, o, u instead. Which is not only a spelling mistake, but can famously turn the city of Düsseldorf into a village full of scatterbrained people.)
I don't know how old I was when I first read HDM, but I didn't care much for researching the actual pronunciation and instead just went with what my brain thought it'd sound like^^



I still don't really know how I'd pronounce daemian, however. I can't settle for "Daymian" because I keep reading æ as ä. But it's clear the ending -ian is meant to be read in English, so ultimately I end up with a word that I'd pronounce "Dämiän" - it's... meh, I guess. I don't like it much.
And reading -ian in German doesn't make for a very pretty word either. It sounds like something you'd call a stupid person =/

That did answer my question, thanks everyone! ^^

My daemon has been sticking to the form of a small bird, It looks like a chickadee, but he has a longer beak. I should do some of those analysis things. Sometime yesterday he was being a golden retriever, which I was okay with, but I definitely did not like it as well as him being a cute little bird.

Well, that's what's much cooler about daemonism IRL as opposed to HDM canon - your dae can just keep changing shape as they like, no matter what you're settled as ^^
I like my stable form very much, but it would admittedly be a bit annoying if Kûn had to keep it all the time.
If you like your daemon as a chickadee/similar, nothing stops you from projecting them as such ^^

Our settled forms rarely turn out to be our favourite animals (although, of course, you may grow fond of the form and it could turn into one of your favourites eventually), because well what are the chances?
But our daemons can still take whatever shape they like, so in the hypothetical scenario that your settled form is a dog, but you like bird forms better, your dae may just keep taking the shape of birds.

Then again, I never heard of someone who disliked their settled form, either?

[hapalopus]

What personality traits would you use to describe your dæmon? Is s/he similar to you or more of your opposite?
He's almost the opposite of me sometimes xD When I'm silent, he's loud and energetic, when I'm loud and energetic, he tells me to calm down a bit. When I'm messy, he's tidy and whenever I point this out to him, he gets sarcastics and starts denying everything. He's very sweet and compassionate when need, though. He has really helped me through some hard times.

I have a question, can large animals be daemons? Such as horses or Buffalo? Just curious ^^

Of course they can! :D Your daemon can take any imaginable comfort form, even a submarine or the Eiffel Tower if that's what you want! Erastos enjoys being a Welsh Mountain Pony quite a lot. Though the actual form can only be a real, analyzable form, your daemon can take whatever you two like as its comfort form. Tos and I prefer to only take the forms of animals that fit us, personality-wise. So, taking the Welsh Mountain Pony as an example, it's adaptable, it's intelligent, it's patient with children, very versatile, it values traditions, it can have a bit of temperament, it's courageous, it's resilient and thick-skinned, and can also be very proud. The only thing that doesn't fit us, is that it's a tad too outgoing, too fond of working, and too patient. Other than that, it's near perfect. The same thing goes for the Virginia pussom, the Antilles pink-toed tarantula, the domestic pig, the fishing cat and a few others.

Oh and I have a question for you guys, (I always forget this aghhh), how do you pronounce dæmian? Is it like DEE-mee-an or DAY-mian or something else?? I know dæmon can be DEE-mon like "demon" or "DAY-mon" with more emphasis on the "a" sound but is that the same for "dæmian"? Sorry, pronouncing words is not my strong suit xP

I pronounce t as DAY-mon as well, but that might be because it's actually spelled Daimon in the danish version of the book (and pronouncing it in any other way would end up as DIE-mon, which is not really favourable :P)

I also have a couple of other questions:
1. What happens to the daemon if a person dies and is then revived? Both book-verse and in real life. Will the Dust that the daemon was made up of reassemble to create the same Daemon? Will the person be daemon-less for a given amount of time?

2. What if one's daemon loses a feather or some fur? Will it dissolve into Dust or will it just lie on the ground? What happens if someone touches it?

[LOCW_Bluestarwarrior]

Hmm, interesting questions.... I believe that if a person dies then is revived, their daemon would be the same way. Like they kinda disappear, but could come back if the person could. Kinda like a soul; if that person is revived, they get what makes them them back of course. They don't have to wait for a new soul. X3

As for the second question, I think it would kinda be hologram-ish, like you could see it but not touch it.

[Charias]

What personality traits would you use to describe your dæmon? Is s/he similar to you or more of your opposite?

Kar is similar to me in some ways... and completely different in others. I guess he couldn't really be described as a voice of reason or as a devil's advocate - he likes to call himself 'neutral'. He tends to be the impulsive one, and is very self-centred (thankfully, I'm included in that :3). He doesn't respect anyone, at all - one of the joys of being incorporeal! He usually follows me around mocking everyone with that dry humour of his. He can be cold, aggressive and unreasonable... but when I need him to be, he turns all sweet and caring, as if he's just been hiding it all along. He's optimistic in an arrogant kind of way. He normally seems bored by everyday life and regards the world and everyone in it as below him on some scale of his. He's told me himself that his whole purpose of existence is to irritate me... and he does a great job of it too! I love him for it though. xP

He's actually a very complex guy. And sometimes hard to deal with, but I still love him and wouldn't have him any other way.

In some ways I guess he's more tulpa-like than other daemons seem to be - he seems to do his own thing, and a lot of the time he does and says things that genuinely surprise me. I guess that probably sounds creepy... but I don't mind, because he can give me advice on things and offer suggestions that I haven't consciously thought up yet. And some of the conversations we have, omg.

How do you pronounce dæmian?

I say it DAYM-ee-an, but I pronounce daemon as 'demon'. Mostly because in the books it's meant to be pronounced that way, so I got used to it being said like that. *shrugs* If I were introducing someone to the subject I'd say it DAY-mon, because it sounds a bit weird saying that you have a demon that you talk to.

[Tussle]

helloooo TDU! i hope this doesnt count as gravedigging, i haven't really been on CS in over a year and i'm a bit rusty ^^;

short introduction, then i'll answer the questions that are floating around atm:
i'm armin, and my daemon is a stable (im waiting to live on my own to see if my personality develops anymore before i say "settled") coyote named novamicus (nova for short) and hes approx. 3 years old? yeah i'd say about 3. he's sorta tulpa-ish, actually....hmm.

What personality traits would you use to describe your dæmon? Is s/he similar to you or more of your opposite?

nova is kind of similar to me, i suppose. he's very snarky, and we tend to tease each other in a mutual way. (example: he said he didnt like a favourite character of mine and i threatened to "kick him out") he's a trickster-y type you could say. chaotic neutral.
at the same time he can be quite nurturing, like myself, and gets very very excited if one of my friends mention him/talk to him, again like myself! he can be pretty aloof, and i guess i can kind of be too....

How do you pronounce dæmian?

kind of like day-mine, but then again i'm not very good at pronouncing a lot of things so thats probably wrong/silly

[a sky full of stars]

^^
Oh yay, the thread was a little dead XD
But I love this union so much omg.

I love nova's name!
Anyways question time...

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Is your Daemon constantly with you, or do they sometimes zone out for a while?

Sarophinx is with me pretty much all the time, but sometimes he will just 'zone out' for a while and come back later.

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What is your comfort form and why is it what it is?

Phinx's comfort form is an Osprey, it was not one of the first forms he took but we tried it out and it fit perfectly. Even though I chose the form based on a rough analyses, later reading more detailed analyses still proved to be true. I knew I would always be a bird-heart; the fox form I began with wasn't always natural. So yeah our comfort form is an Osprey, followed by a cat and a beech marten c;

[booklover789]

Is your Daemon constantly with you, or do they sometimes zone out for a while?

Octavius zones out A LOT. In fact, he's with me only when I'm bored, or need something to occupy my mind. Sometimes when I'm at school I'll see him, jumping about in a smaller form (his normal one is usually a Cougar or German Shepherd, though recently he's been taking a Red Fox form as well as a Red Panda form) from desk to desk or light fixture to light fixture. Sometimes he can get distracting, so I just tell him to leave - and he does. Just sort of...disappears. But he always comes back.



What is your comfort form and why is it what it is?

I have no idea, really. Octavius's most used form is most certainly a Cougar. His next most used form would have to be an Owl (I thought at first it was a Barn Owl, only to find out later that it's some other breed I'm not familiar with), and then a German Shepherd, Dachshund, and Raccoon. Recently he's been taking the forms of a Red Fox and a Red Panda, as I stated above.

I don't know why I prefer certain forms over others - I just do. I DETEST insect forms, and he only became one for an instant, out of curiosity on my part...and hopefully he doesn't do that again. I prefer the fuzzy, furry critters over hard, exoskeletons; though I have met one particular person here on CS who doesn't mind bugs, and doesn't mind if her daemon forms into one. To each his own, I guess.

I've not really delved very deep into form analysis, though I do have The Daemon Forum bookmarked on my computer. I just haven't looked into it recently. Awhile back sifted through a TON of the analyses on the site, and found that the three most used forms that Octavius takes are quite matching with my personality...however, with these new forms, I'm not so sure they're like myself, due to my not looking them up as I should.

[nio]

Is your Daemon constantly with you, or do they sometimes zone out for a while?
i've lost my ability to project, and i don't seem to have the mind power and time to do it anymore. but i always feel his presence. and he's always there, talking to me.

What is your comfort form and why is it what it is?
our comfort form is a nebelung cat, because we were that for over half a year and we are so used to it

[hapalopus]

Welcome to the union, Squeaktier! :D

Is your Daemon constantly with you, or do they sometimes zone out for a while?

'Tos is actually pretty rarely active. I know he's there, but he will usually only appear when I am scared, stressed, bored, or can't figure something out. Like when I'm having a test in school and don't know what to answer. Even though we will usually choose different answers, he tends to be right. If I try to project him right now, he's resting at the foot of my bed, right beside my cat. I don't know if daemons can sleep, but if they can, he is right now.

What is your comfort form and why is it what it is?

Uh, he doesn't exactly have one comfort form, rather ten or twenty. Even though we're both pretty sure that he's a binturong, Erastos really enjoys being a Welsh Mountain Pony, an Antilles pink-toed tarantula, a hairy-legged vampirebat, a labrador-sized dragon, and an opossum. All of these are forms that (according to TDF) fit us a lot but not completely. However, now that it's cold outside, he enjoys being a sugarglider and hiding in my coat or running through the snow as an arctic fox. He has, however also taken the form of a bowling ball, a human, and one of my OCs for reasons unknown. I think he does it to annoy me.