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Re: Hamster Club

Postby Sadies » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:17 pm

Lol I am getting Maizy a new cage today, she's driving everyone nuts chewing on the cage bars all night :( going to get her a fully plastic cage :) and hopefully a bigger one :)
Sorry for my slow response time on RP's. My new job steals ALL my time. :(


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Re: Hamster Club

Postby Pangali » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:14 am

♥Christine♥ wrote:I advise to study genetic and company before starting any breeding, I studied for years and then started my breeding line, if a person breeds for fun, that person is not helping anything, to breed it's important to have goals and have something to improve, responsabilitly is not everything.
A Syrian Hamster can have up to 18 babies in a litter, it's rare, but can happen, you will need 18 cages if you can't find them a home until they reach 1 month and 2 weeks (when they start fighting for real and need to be separated by cages), if you will breed to give/sold them to a pet shop, don't do it, just don't do it.
I have had Hamsters with almost 7 months and still looking for owners.

Your question can only be replied by someone who understand genetic, so, I can help you if you know who are the parents of Andrea, I want to know the colorations of them if possible, what do you mean by tan? Golden? This:
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?? If so, it's a Golden Hamster, the default color of the Syrian Hamster, which means that every breeding that doesn't match genetically will end in a litter of Golden Hamsters, all of them.
If she's really a Golden, to have Black babies she needs a copy of the Black gene, since the Black is recessive, which means the babies need one copy of the gene from each parent to show the color.
So, if the parents of Andrea are Black (any of them), she will carry the gene, one copy of it and if mated with one Black Banded, there will be some Black Banded babies, if she doesn't carry the gene, they will be all Golden, unless there's another gene in their blood which is recessive, example: The Black Banded could carry Cream and if Andrea was carrier of Cream as well, there would be some Cream babies, since Cream is recessive as well.
So, all I can tell by now is that the litter will be Golden, without knowing what they carry or not.

As for the pattern, which is the Banded, they can born with or without it, Banded is a dominant gene, which means it only needs a copy from one of the parents for the babies show it physically.
The most common are babies Banded, so, in most cases there are a bigger number of Banded babies than the ones without any pattern, but, it can happen otherwise as well.



P.s.: Some people think that Sable Bandeds are Black Bandeds, it's wrong, so, make sure you are really talking about a Black Banded, because it will change everything if you are talking about a Sable Banded.

This is a Black Banded:

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And this is a Sable Banded:

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You can put the winner on the front page just like you did with the species. :)
Put the title "Hamster of the month" (or whatever) and then, the picute! :D


I agree entirely! If you dont know the hamsters parents then you have the added 'bonus' of genetic diseases to worry about.

That last one look exactly like Hermionie!
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby Kickin' up dirt » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:07 pm

@Christine The parents of Andrea are Vanilla and Coconut, she was from there last litter. Coconut is all gray with a little white one the stomach and chest. Vanilla looks like this: http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&s ... ih=356#p=0
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I have four people that wanted hamsters from my last litter, but I could work something out to find more homes. Actually, it might be Sable banded, I didn't look to closely. The thing with Andrea is she's inbred, accidentally. So I suppose it wouldn't be a good idea to start a line with her. I was trying to find a couple from a breeder, but had no luck.
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby The Mad Girl » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:40 pm

CinnamonBarrel wrote:@Christine The parents of Andrea are Vanilla and Coconut, she was from there last litter. Coconut is all gray with a little white one the stomach and chest. Vanilla looks like this: http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&s ... ih=356#p=0
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I have four people that wanted hamsters from my last litter, but I could work something out to find more homes. Actually, it might be Sable banded, I didn't look to closely. The thing with Andrea is she's inbred, accidentally. So I suppose it wouldn't be a good idea to start a line with her. I was trying to find a couple from a breeder, but had no luck.



Jani is right and that "bonus" is not something good to see, never really tried to breed any Pet Shop Hamsters, but believe me, it can be a pain.

I can't really see the photography from the Google Search you sent me, it would be better if you copy the link of the image, but since she is inbred I don't really advise to use her, I'm against inbreeding in these cases, when more inbreed is not needed (even if the male is not inbreed, it can cause serious problems. so, it's continuing the inbreed), if inbreeding is needed it should be done by someone who really know what they are doing, yes, inbreeding is needed sometimes, to save disappearing colors (or Very rare colors) and company, but that inbreeding is fully corrected in the next generations, what doesn't happen with inexperienced breeders because they didn't studied genetic and company, so, they will never know how to correct the line and keep the good morfology and company at the same time.
By the description Coconut seems to be a Dove? Am I wrong? This is a Dove:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RV3K0WcLG6w/T ... CF2156.JPG

Ignore the white, he was Banded.
If so, Andrea is carrier of Black, since to show this color the Hamster need 2 copies of Black and Cinnamon.
But I don't really advise to use her, as I said.
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby HamstermadHammy » Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:09 am

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Re: Hamster Club

Postby couzer732 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:20 pm

sorry I've been gone so long! What'd i miss?
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby Kickin' up dirt » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:58 pm

@Christine I probaly won't use her, thanks :) Do you mean Vanilla? Vanilla looks just like that dove, so does Andrea. Coconut is gray though, does that help? I can post a picture of what he looks like if you need me too, sorry about the other picture, it was sent from my iPod.


Guys.. Just found Jasper dead, he was my first hamster, and my only dwarf :(
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby couzer732 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:12 pm

CinnamonBarrel wrote:

Guys.. Just found Jasper dead, he was my first hamster, and my only dwarf :(


aww, I feel so bad for you!
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby Shark-salad » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:12 pm

what happened to him! was he bloody? how long was he gone? where did you find him!! im so sorry
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Re: Hamster Club

Postby SingTheRain » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:19 pm

CinnamonBarrel wrote:@Christine I probaly won't use her, thanks :) Do you mean Vanilla? Vanilla looks just like that dove, so does Andrea. Coconut is gray though, does that help? I can post a picture of what he looks like if you need me too, sorry about the other picture, it was sent from my iPod.


Guys.. Just found Jasper dead, he was my first hamster, and my only dwarf :(


Awww! *hugs you* I'm so sorry!! :(

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