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[Pk.]

I'm a little confused about how Mega Kangaskhan can be viewed as cheating XD
Considering it's a legit Pokemon that was just improved with a mega evolution and a new ability just like every other mega evolution. The second hit's damage is even reduced by 50%, I mean, I'm not afraid to take on a Mega Kangaskhan, and I'm far from calling it a cheat, just train a Pokemon to counter it c:

[Saphira344]

Yer, but when you dont plan for it it can wreck your team, its one of the reasons i try and have at least one fighting move in a team to counter a mega kangskan, though Mr shiny almost OHKOed one, witch should be exspected him being a fighting type.

[cαkε]

I'm a little confused about how Mega Kangaskhan can be viewed as cheating XD
Considering it's a legit Pokemon that was just improved with a mega evolution and a new ability just like every other mega evolution. The second hit's damage is even reduced by 50%, I mean, I'm not afraid to take on a Mega Kangaskhan, and I'm far from calling it a cheat, just train a Pokemon to counter it c:

Plus, it's vulnerable to damage by just about every type besides ghost which it's immune to. (It's extremely weak to fighting as well which is a pretty common type)

Lots of pokemon got a big boost in multi-gaming perspective with the megastones and the new fairy type.
Whether or not you take down mega kanghaskan depends how the kanghaskan was trained, how your pokemon is trained and if you can outwit the other person. :3

(On topic of surf. - Surf can benefit your partner if it has an ability like water absorb which if hit by a water type move it heals 1/4 of your poke's HP. The downside of this is the two pokemon on your side are bound to share weaknesses)


[I'm available for a multibattle or two right now if anyone wants to battle]

[Naala]

I'm a little confused about how Mega Kangaskhan can be viewed as cheating XD
Considering it's a legit Pokemon that was just improved with a mega evolution and a new ability just like every other mega evolution. The second hit's damage is even reduced by 50%, I mean, I'm not afraid to take on a Mega Kangaskhan, and I'm far from calling it a cheat, just train a Pokemon to counter it c:

Because it can easily take out an opponent in one round (and easily beat an whole team, too). I had enough battles against some to fear it (many using Fake Out) and I choose my pokemon, because I like them, not because there are really strong so I don't swap them for such a reason. That the second hit is weaker than the first isn't really an argument, because it would be really mean if it wasn't like that. Darkrai using Dark Void is also legal, but you really don't feel happy having to face it again and again in Triple Battles (I also think Protean Greninja is kinda cheating, because it also beats opponents as easily as Mega Kangaskhan).

[cαkε]

Protean Greninja has it's downsides. If you're fighting an opponent with a Protean Greninja you can use it to your an advantage and use a move type to annihilate them. (Personally I've had no problem with Protean Greninja. I take 'em down pretty easily with Blaziken)

Eg:
Greninja uses ice shard and turns ice-type
Blaziken uses protect
Blaziken uses Blaze-kick/some generic fire-type move

Back on the subject of Kanghaskan, I'm able to counter Kanghaskan pretty well with Blaziken using protect and stalling to wait for my Blaziken to Speed Boost enough to outspeed it (protect also gives you an indication of their moveset, gives you an idea of their speed if you're in a multibattle and stops fake out).

Dark Void isn't a problem either as I don't believe it's got an amazing accuracy and besides. I'm pretty sure there's quite a few common counters to Darkrai a few being Primeape and Mewtwo.

[Saphira344]

Fake out is easy with a pokemon who has the 'can not flinch'ablity.

[Pk.]

Well, it's a good thing I wasn't using the 50% decrease on the second hit as an argument? XD
It was more like something meant to be informative. Just because a Pokemon can't be beaten easily means it's defined as a cheat, for one thing there is no dishonesty or unfairness to it at all. They can easily be countered(as Lyusani has pointed out) and only looking at the advantages that each Pokemon has won't help see the disadvantages, because any Pokemon can be beaten with a good strategy.

Yeah, Greninja isn't too bad. The ability to change typings and get STAB on every move as well as a high base speed can definitely be used well in a battle, but I know a lot of protean Greninja run sets with variety moves, like u-turn or ice beam. So changing the type can also open it up to more weaknesses, if that makes sense XD

[cαkε]

A passerby just challenged me with a legendary team. (Zapdos, Lugia, Zygarde, Groudon, etc)
I actually KO'd two pokemon without realizing it using Sheer Cold by default since I had been preoccupied by our previous discussion. (Lapras does have a surprising luck with that SC). I destroyed Lugia with Lapras and Blaziken, destroyed Groudon with Blaziken and Gardevoir, got Zygarde with Blaziken and Gardevoir and got rid of Zapdos with a clever use of Yveltal and Tyranitar x3


It makes my day when I'm able to defeat an 'uber' team.

[Pk.]

You have like, the best accuracy ever with sheer cold XD
I've been challenged by people with a full team of legendaries before. I remember I won once with just my Umbreon left, but the person I was battling didn't seem to know how to use his/her team very well, there were a lot of errors on the other side but I can't recall what they were x.x

Also I'm not surprised you were able to beat an 'uber' team, you're great at competitive battling in my opinion c:
Especially with those sheer colds, haha XD

[Naala]

Protean Greninja has it's downsides. If you're fighting an opponent with a Protean Greninja you can use it to your an advantage and use a move type to annihilate them. (Personally I've had no problem with Protean Greninja. I take 'em down pretty easily with Blaziken)

Eg:
Greninja uses ice shard and turns ice-type
Blaziken uses protect
Blaziken uses Blaze-kick/some generic fire-type move

Back on the subject of Kanghaskan, I'm able to counter Kanghaskan pretty well with Blaziken using protect and stalling to wait for my Blaziken to Speed Boost enough to outspeed it (protect also gives you an indication of their moveset, gives you an idea of their speed if you're in a multibattle and stops fake out).

Dark Void isn't a problem either as I don't believe it's got an amazing accuracy and besides. I'm pretty sure there's quite a few common counters to Darkrai a few being Primeape and Mewtwo.

I have encountered quite a few Darkrais with Dark Void and it usually puts 90% of my pokemon to sleep and if one doesn't it's due in the second round.

Greninjas are very quick and not all pokemon survive an effective hit from one.
What is also hard to beat is a Greninja using Mat Block in a triple battle while it's partner use moves like Earthquake.

You can make a strategy for all of them, but it's hard to be prepaired for all of them at once.

I know using those pokemon isn't really cheating, but I decided not to use them, because it frustrates me to battle them.