Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby Lilelith » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:18 am

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@Ymir // Good luck! <3
@zipperzig // Cute art, omgg ;u; *i haven't got dA points* :C
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Relations to tryout!

Quite a long time I wasn't there, but in the summer I have little time - which is strange. Turning to the important things! I'm fell in love ;u; I need some relations for nursery #60, Ariel. I'm interested in different relationships for this plumie. I offer free art your plumie with Ariel <3 These plumie don't have to be small.
I most need:
· friend - His complete opposite, certainly brave character, which could do a lot for Ariel. "Guardian". Admired by him. Prefere female his age. - closed, Piper -owner Baigel
· friend - His soulmate. Fearful, a fascinating mysteries. Any age - open, max 1 plumie
· oppressor - Someone who would always be laugh at him and insulted by him. Especially with the women's names. Plumie liked to haunt him and take stuffed animals. To say that cryptids don't exist. Any age- open, max 1 plumie

Each with an interesting idea or suggestion, feel free to PM.
THANK YOU <3

Arts to tryout!
I need arts to nursery #60. I can offer CS pets or art (art trade). Feel free to PM. Thank you!


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By Ymir / Gave me ~Apollo~, thanks ;u;
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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby wingz. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:29 am

    @zipperzip
    ohmygosh that is way to cute!!! <33

THIS IS A GENERAL PSA!!!!!!

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do not, I REPEAT, do NOT underprice yourself!!
I see thing happening all the time in the fc and I know people are unhappy with both their art and work loads
I know people like to draw, I know you want to make something off of it, but underpricing yourself just so
"people will buy" is pointless and stupid and it makes you hate doing the work in the end. you should feel proud
of the work you do and the fact that you are making something off of it. ART SHOULD NOT BECOME SOMETHING
TEDIOUS AND EXHAUSTING!!!! pace yourself and price at what makes you comfortable!!!

one important thing to remember is that 100 points = $1
minimum wage in my state is $7.50 an hour
one of the ways I started to figure out my pricing was based on how long I spent on a piece
if I spent over an hour on it I shouldn't be pricing it at 200-250 points thats a waste of my time
you should do the same. if you put a TON of effort into your work don't underprice yourself

DO BE AWARE that your prices will have to be a little low at first. thats how you entice people in
after you start getting people buying your commissions start raising prices slowly until you get
them where you want. I understand that a lot of people within the fc can't pay and thats both a
bummer for the artist and those who are looking for art. there are other ways to acquire art!!
I know I'm big on doing art trades when I have time. Im not picky on skill level because I remember
when no one would do a trade with me and know what? I love getting a piece of my character no
matter who it is from. you can work out payment plans! say the person only has so many points
you can figure out a way for them to pay you back over a short period of time. otherwise get
creative and talk it over! don't just shoot people down because they can't match your prices rn
and don't get discouraged because you can't afford to commission those you want to at the time

if you are on deviantart, GET YOURSELF OUT THERE
don't sit around waiting for people to come to you you need to go to them
join adopt groups, a lot of them take commissions journals so you can post those there
join groups who share work like the kind you are doing! you can find a lot of like minded people
do some YCH for popular species and post in the species groups.

the more you post the better the chance it is seen. people are always browsing the recent submissions on da
the more you work and the more you put yourself out there the more people will bite

do you like some characters anatomy? draw it! not only does gift art please those who receive it
but drawing something and working outside your usual box helps you improve!!!

people love art of their characters!!!!

good luck!!
if you need help or are confused dont be afraid to contact me!
I would be happy to help with group suggestions or prices!]

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as a reply to Sly.Blue who makes a good comment here

I understand that skill level is important. I hit on that when I say that you're going to need to start low
everyone starts low until they start to get better with their art. that takes practice and I do say that
you will need to work to get better. while a good point and important, just focusing on skill tends to
put most people down and they don't try to work to get better. What im trying to say is price for how it
is, don't underprice, and work your way up like any other artist out there.

hope that clears it up!

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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby NE0N-UMBR30N » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:02 am

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finishing the jm from last night<3

also if anyone is good with prices,maybe when you get there you can help me with my dA comms?

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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby ✧ 花chéngzhǔ. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:05 am

@Char;; those are so cute!
@Ymir;; I'd order more, but I think I already gave you the last of my points XD good luck getting commissions though!
@Lielith;; cute art, and good luck in the comp!
@wingz;; while I agree with most of what you're saying, you have to remember that art is also priced by skill. my best friend and I may spend the same amount of time on a piece of art, but as her skill is superior, I don't price my art the same as hers.
it's the same with any other job. the more years of experience and skill you have, the better you get paid.


    I just wanted to add something, since wingz was discussing pricing art. This is something I have seen a lot lately.

    DA points and C$ are not equal.

    In terms of USD value, 5 DA points = 1 C$. Remember this when you price your art guys. I had some trouble with this too when I first started taking commissions.

    (Sorry this isn't about plumes per se, but it is relevant. ^^")
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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby GREML0RD » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:26 am

@wingz - I agree with all of that but I think the main issue is that a lot of people just don't want to pay. If you don't have the amount to pay for the art that's fine, it's understandable if you don't have the amount they're asking for. But the issue is when these people guilt trip you into lowering your prices. There's some who can't pay and instead of just leaving the page or complimenting the artist for their hard work they instead say things like "loveeeeee your artwork!!1 But I don't have the money to pay! If only it was lower then I would totally get some" or "your art is awesome but your commissions are too high :p too bad, I'd order" or "your art is good but I wouldn't pay those prices". It's things like this that discourage the artist that they'll ever get commissions and promptly lower their prices thinking that they'll get commissions. The problem with this is there will always be someone that wants it even lower and complains about it. This is why people work for pennies cause they'll get commissions no other way. I myself having that same issue. But you are right, the way to work through that is by getting yourself out there. Draw in people with fan art or posting on large groups with your artwork til you start getting followers. Draw them in with the fan art and keep them reeled with the rest of your art. But the issue is that this takes time. It won't happen overnight that you'll get yourself out there and you'll be able to work for the amount your comfortable with being paid. So until then, your still stuck working for pennies.

There's more I could say but I'm on mobile ^^;
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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby NE0N-UMBR30N » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:10 am

Lillith-Good luck<3


First I'm looking for art<3


So I'm gonna be taking plumie commissions because I need payments for art of my fursona and I really wanna doodle some plume plume's



First,the prices I list are dA points,but I can also take FR,CS rares+,or C$,so PM me and we can work something out!

Headshot
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Plain-30 points
Shaded-35 points

Unlimited Slots~


Big Pixel Doll
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Still-60
Moving/Bouncing-100

Slots
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Full Picture
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Flat Color-80
Shading-+15
Make into ScreenCap-+5
Add BG-+5

Slots
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🌊Shoreclan🌊
🦊Foxclan🦊
🧣Cozies🧣
🐾Wermz🐾

I rely heavily on tone tags
and use them often! also
i’m very shy and have trouble
communicating. Thank you in
advance for any art made,
contests won, etc <3

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mods, victorbirdeh and i sometimes
trade unfairly with each other :0
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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby Slimedog » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:04 am

@wingz; that's actually a incredibly good point. and with everything that sly.blue and okamorei said i would also like to add that having your commission prices ridiculously low doesn't just harm you but harms the entire artist community as a whole, especially freelance artists. i'm sure you've all heard of herd immunity like when in context when talking about vaccines, and that's kind of the same way as with artist.

it's no secret that the people on this website who will probably end up being your customers are young, what they learn here will probably carry over to other websites they migrate over to as they get older. if you teach them here and now that they're able to get fullbody/shaded art for 50 dA points (that's 50 cents real american dollars) then when they go over to websites centered/concentrated on art, that's what they're going to expect when they go to commission artists who have their flat rates at like, 50$+ for the same thing, and when they see that it's 50$ and not 50 cents, it's going to be a mess for sure.

freelance artists are always getting the short end of the stick payment wise and it makes it just a tiny bit hard to, you know, make a living when everyone is complaining that 20$ for a bust drawing is too much (it's really actually underpay, take your country/state's minimum wage rates into account, please). making your prices so low to start with end up really harming the artist community as a whole and makes it 10x more difficult for people to get on their feet in the freelance business. i know it's a bit scary at first, and yeah, i've underpriced myself quite a bit, hell i've taken virtual pixel dogs as payment for my art, alright, i know it's hard, but please do think of the rest of the artists out there trying to make a living when you price yourself. don't bring the whole herd down because you don't want to do your part.

#ArtistsHelpArtistsByNotUnderpricing2kforever

&& anyways with that messily said lil thing i will just. bep

default ask.fm link for you all to click and bother my plumerians with

ahh last time i'll be posting this ad and then i'll be outta ya' guys' hair for a longer while since a hiatus is looking really nice these days.
but yeah i'm still looking for rps for lisian and cashile. i've found that i'm not really as active with the community on here anymore as i once was, so i really at this point just want to find love interests/mates for these two and then kinda keep to the sidelines. i will only consider people for these two if you're willing to rp (mainly humanized rps over skype) and you're willing to be active with them. i also should at least mention that there is a very low chance of me breeding any of my plumerians after they've been mated off, so that should be taken into account. i do lots of arts and headcanons for couples as well so yeh.

just feel free to pm me since i don't bite and i'll try to consider everyone 'w'


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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby wandzie. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:15 am

No orders.. Heh.

@wingz; Definitely agree totally!! <3 Really good of you to say all that, I'm sure it will help people.
@Sly Blue; Yeah I've seen a heck of a lot of over priced C$ art ;o
@Hibiscus; Super cute art!!
@Okamorei; I totally agree about feeling like you're not worth it cause people don't have enough to pay. But I guess, if they do have that much, but not a lot over it, e.g a commission was 100 points and they had 120, they're obviously not dedicated enough to the character if they don't want to order. Unless they're saving up, like me XD
@Lilelith; Good luck <33!



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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby bark! » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:17 am

Seeking for someone to grow cricket C:

I can pay in 20 c$, Items, Pets or a combo of all 3 q w q

Pm me if your interested, please! Thank you! -Click the image to be taken to her C:-


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Re: Plumerian Fanclub ♥ V.3

Postby bailey; » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:48 am


    @Wingz + Okamorei + everyone else - I agree with what every one of you said. Especially Slime. Under pricing yourself really limits yourself to the other people you can commission when they have their things properly priced and such. If you guys properly price your things or at least start at a low point around a group that has the points to spare (ex. Well known closed species. If these people have the money to own one I'm sure they have the money to buy art of them and not mind it.) and gradually work your ways up, you will find it to be fairly easier to commission those with prices in the idk 500 point range and above or somethin'.
    @W o o f - Gl getting the babe grown.
    @Wandzie- I'd commission ya if I wasn't trying to save up to give refunds.
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    Please ignore my art pricing related reply it's probably nonsense.
    Idk here's an art dump of some art I never posted. Lined the first and third with my sketch brush. Like the outcome tbh, it looks soft.
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    And some ship art doodles of an unknown ship. To you guys at least. (PSA don't have a ship with my characters I will bombard you with ship art I'm ship trash)
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    Huzzah for uncoloured anonymous ships.
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    Idk I'm really really tempted to take a hiatus from here.
    (lol I've already taken a hiatus from dA, Skype and the likes. I haven't spoken to my closest friends because I don't want to make them upset with the issues I'm supposed to figure out myself.) There's just one person that's adding onto my daily plate of problems because they can't??? Talk things out in a civilized manner? Literally every time I speak to them about their art (albeit in somewhat of a helpful manner) they always seem like I'm very heavily offending them? Idk this is the second go around and I always try to give everyone three chances so we'll see how that goes. :/
    In the meantime, I'm sorry for the abrupt ending of my stream yesterday. Something happened.
    Also I've closed down PMs but if you really want to get in contact with me just send me a trade or something. I'm just really struggling with my anxiety and depression as of recently (I'm literally stuck in the mindset that everyone is judging me regardless of what I do and is out to get me. I'm not kidding.) and conflict/drama is the last thing I need.

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