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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Mycorrhizae » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:10 pm

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2011! wrote:Is there gonna be a new doctor after twelve, or is the series ending? :(

Classic series convention says that Time Lords have thirteen regenerations, fanon + that bit in SJA + Word Of God say that the Time Lords gave themselves more regenerations during the Time War (since it was a constructed number they came up with in the first place), logic says that Doctor Who is a giant moneymaker for the BBC and therefore they will keep it going for as long as possible.


Yea, pretty much. Besides that, I think BBC would get in a lot of trouble from DW fans if they ended the series.


I'd be sad if Doctor Who ended. It's definitely something that could keep going for a very long time, unlike most shows which really do need to end at some point. Although now I'm wondering what kind of ending they could give the show.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby kitten; » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:52 pm

Loke wrote:I'd be sad if Doctor Who ended. It's definitely something that could keep going for a very long time, unlike most shows which really do need to end at some point. Although now I'm wondering what kind of ending they could give the show.


They'd probably give it a bittersweet semi-ending, with the doctor dying for the last time with River maybe, his companion and if they bring someone along. And then they'd cut it to a commercial break, and then after companion would be flying around with the TARDIS with River and everything would be happy. <3 That's how I would envision it, anyway. c:
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Atwood » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:13 pm

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2011! wrote:Is there gonna be a new doctor after twelve, or is the series ending? :(

Classic series convention says that Time Lords have thirteen regenerations, fanon + that bit in SJA + Word Of God say that the Time Lords gave themselves more regenerations during the Time War (since it was a constructed number they came up with in the first place), logic says that Doctor Who is a giant moneymaker for the BBC and therefore they will keep it going for as long as possible.

Also, considering how easily the Master got around the regeneration limit for most of the classic series and that he was offered a whole new set of regenerations by the Council as a reward for doing one good thing, it seems that gaining more regenerations really wasn't a big thing. I suspect the Time Lords would have removed the limit or greatly upped it for the Time War, since it was just a number that Rassilon picked fairly randomly and could be changed. I saw a theory somewhere that the reason for the limit was that Time Lords would go insane after they'd had too many regenerations, since it causes a massive mental strain every time it happens and would eventually make them snap (the Master possibly being an example of that as well, since he rocketed through most of his regenerations in one go and was extremely unbalanced afterward... well, moreso than usual. He was also a decayed corpse afterward, which probably didn't help matters). That would explain why the Time Lords were mostly off their rockers in The End of Time, because they'd all gone through too many regenerations over the war's duration, to the point that most of them thought exterminating the universe was a good idea.

In short, the regeneration limit will almost certainly turn out to be no limit at all. X3 The Doctor will somehow end up getting more regenerations or having his regeneration limit lifted completely and continue on just as he always has. The only momentous thing connected with him reaching his twelfth/thirteenth regeneration is that the Valeyard is supposed to show up then, and the Valeyard has already been hinted at with the Dream Lord.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Noxly » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:29 pm

Honestly, there's no WAY they are going to end it. As someone said (I forgot who xD) it is a huge money maker for BBC and also, well, we might just have to you know, do something really really bad to BBC if they ended it. I think they'll just get rid of the regeneration limit because it seems they havn't mentioned it for a wile anyway. But I wouldn't know because I have only watched it from series 6. :)
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby zippyzoo77 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:03 pm

They just couldn't end it, it's got too big of a reputation to quit. It would never end because people would be so upset if they did.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Noxly » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:06 pm

I agree Zippy. They would have far too much trouble on their hands.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Atwood » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:08 pm

EmoNinjaChicken wrote:Honestly, there's no WAY they are going to end it. As someone said (I forgot who xD) it is a huge money maker for BBC and also, well, we might just have to you know, do something really really bad to BBC if they ended it. I think they'll just get rid of the regeneration limit because it seems they havn't mentioned it for a wile anyway. But I wouldn't know because I have only watched it from series 6. :)

The only mention of it in the new series as far as I know was in the Sarah Jane Adventures when Clive asks the Doctor how many times he can regenerate, and the Doctor immediately replies, "Five hundred and seven." If you add the numbers up, you still get twelve, and I believe RTD said at some point that the Doctor was being facetious when he said it, but that doesn't mean that the regeneration limit is necessarily still the same. I can see why the Doctor would make up a number in that situation, since if he had said "twelve", the next question would inevitably have been "which regeneration are you on now", to which the answer would have been "eleven", probably resulting in all humans concerned going " :shock: DON'T DIE!!!! 8C" and being completely distracted. I can't remember if Sarah Jane or Jo knew how many regenerations a Time Lord got or not, but they weren't in that scene anyway.
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Noxly » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:48 pm

Atwood how long ago was that from the current series? And yep, knowing what I have seen from the companions so far they would probably just be constantly be clinging to the doctor. Oh hang on.

Amy: *Stares at doctor*
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Atwood » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:39 pm

I think that would have been between Series 5 and Series 6 - it was with Matt Smith, and the previous season had David Tennant as the Doctor, and Matt was already known as the Doctor so it would have been after or during Season 5. The SJA episode was called 'The Death of the Doctor' and has two of the Doctor's old companions in it, Sarah Jane Smith and Jo Grant (who got married since her time with the Doctor and is now named - what else - Jo Jones. This show has a serious fixation on Smiths and Joneses; Clive is also a Jones, unrelated to Martha Jones, Harriet Jones or Ianto Jones).
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Re: Doctor Who Fan Club!

Postby Scarf » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:40 pm

Atwood wrote:I think that would have been between Series 5 and Series 6 - it was with Matt Smith, and the previous season had David Tennant as the Doctor, and Matt was already known as the Doctor so it would have been after or during Season 5. The SJA episode was called 'The Death of the Doctor' and has two of the Doctor's old companions in it, Sarah Jane Smith and Jo Grant (who got married since her time with the Doctor and is now named - what else - Jo Jones. This show has a serious fixation on Smiths and Joneses; Clive is also a Jones, unrelated to Martha Jones, Harriet Jones or Ianto Jones).

Well in Cliff Jones' defence he was a Jones before any of the other Joneses were Joneses :D

I'm pretty sure that Death of the Doctor sits between the end of Series Five and A Christmas Carol. The Doctor mentions that the Ponds are off on their honeymoon. And then there's that scene with Jo and arhfhsiofhdiohifofff ;-;

I'm a serial away from the end of Three and I'm really going to miss him when he's gone. Also Sarah Jane is even more wonderful than you could ever imagine when you watch lots of her stuff back to back <3
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