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[dira.]

well then...

now that bear run has pushed past all on the drama. i would like to introduce my first and only icelandic sheepdog

elska

she was made by the lovely stumpy and her name translates to love in icelandic. she is open for friends as well as a mate c:

[saorsa]

After all this, it's extremely hard to even want to stay and do the archive. If I'm putting hours of work into the archive for you and then I get called childish because I know, for a fact, that firing potato was personal, then why should I bother working hard on something for you guys?

My computer is down but I am struggling and using my phone to work on the archive. This is extremely time consuming and difficult.

Most people who offered or were picked to help me, have no let me know they don't want to. Regarding sending out messages letting know they were fired: I don't care if there was a warning because nobody knew if they themselves were getting fired or not, it was just a warning saying it was coming. So artists sat around wondering.

And yes this was getting fired! Firing is not giving someone a choice. retiring is the person choosing to step down.
fire
ˈfī(ə)r/
verb
past tense: fired; past participle: fired
2.
informal
dismiss (an employee) from a job.
"having to fire men who've been with me for years"
synonyms: dismiss, discharge, give someone their notice, lay off, let go, get rid of, ax, cashier;

re·tire
rəˈtī(ə)r/
verb
verb: retire; 3rd person present: retires; past tense: retired; past participle: retired; gerund or present participle: retiring
1.
leave one's job and cease to work, typically upon reaching the normal age for leaving employment.
"he retired from the navy in 1966"
synonyms: give up work, stop working, stop work;

[Schainukan]

I also officially introduce my male sheepdog, Yuan!! =D



He'd be happy to be friends with your boy, Rocky. X3

And dira, her gender symbol on the picture says male, may get that changed. XD

[mewmew.]

I would love for them to be friends Schainukan!

[cowgirlchrista]

Skyy, I wasn't directing anything at anyone, so sorry if I need to say you need to stop making assumptions. We all appreciate your work in the archive.
Now that everyone has gotten over the drama, you seem to keep stirring it up after. Please; everyone is okay now and we all enjoy being happy.

Now that everyone is okay again
Would anyone like a stream later?

[Azteca.]

Meeee! I something to make me relax xD

[Schainukan]

ALright, then their friends!! X3
You guys can use Shain/Schain it's fine.^^

Meeep, no stream for me, probably...
Your times, guys, it kills me. I'm really jealous for your timezones sometimes.

[saorsa]

I'm ashamed you guys are ignoring this issue.

I'm talking with the "retired" artists and everyone is completely hurt (and no, not everyone is all happy and dandy, they just aren't posting here because clearly nobody here cares) and the fact that everyone wants to brush their feelings off and ignore them is completely disgusting. They put in a lot of work making tolters for you guys and if I'm the only one who cares about their feelings then that is sad.

[Azteca.]

I'm ashamed you guys are ignoring this issue.

I'm talking with the "retired" artists and everyone is completely hurt (and no, not everyone is all happy and dandy, they just aren't posting here because clearly nobody here cares) and the fact that everyone wants to brush their feelings off and ignore them is completely disgusting. They put in a lot of work making tolters for you guys and if I'm the only one who cares about their feelings then that is sad.

Can't you understand that some of us have no Idea what to say or do about this matter? Yes I feel deeply sorry for tater and all the other artists who were 'retired' but there's nothing that people like me can do about it so what's the point sitting here and complaining? Its only going to make things worse and for every post that's posted about it just makes people think about it more! Yes whats happened is awful but how do you think the rest of us feel? Having to sit here and listen to everyone being depressed and arguing because its not nice at all yeah it sounds like I'm being a horrible person but I don't see how you can ever say that youre ashamed of us? What can we do about it? Because quite frankly its annoying me that I have to hear it all and not be able to anything and when people are saying they no longer want to be in the tolter community anymore because of these decisions it upsets me because I have to see people who I have become quite close to leave! Yeah we are sad about it but some of us are trying to move on and lighten the mood but its a shame some of us are stopping that! *not aimed at anyone*
And I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I say that you're not the only one who cares for their feelings because we do! I just don't see the point in moaning for ages over it what's been done has been done ain't nothing gonna change

//crawls back under my rock// bah humbug. I'm sorry for speaking out.

[Schainukan]

I really didn't want to let this go any further, but I won't hold my tongue at this.
This, is no issue, the only issue is this being kept up when things have already been said. To put this clear, Dream decided with her people and made a decision, she is the owner! Accept this fact and stop poking into the already hurt feelings. Yes, it is saddening that artist have to leave, but this is life. New things come and go. I do agree it may wasn't the perfect way of doing this official, announcing their retirement before doing it per pm, but they always can practicate on the monthly GA thingy and get back for a litte. Saying we didn't appericate their designs and all the time they had put into tolters and the community is a pure lie and I won't let this one slide. We all love their art and we know all of them are great persons and never ever would we not appericate the things they did for us. It simply is that we have to move on. It's nothing we can do about it and think how you want to think about it, but Dream and all the others had their reasons of retiring the other artists. It is not alright to go against Dream or the community all of a sudden. We all knew that artists would have to go soon, so this was nothing new and now seeing how upset people are, it not right.

Now, if you have any more things to discussabout this matter, which I don't see why there would still something be left, this matter is now officially done for. We got people's opinons now and we try to understand those, but life will go on so will the tolters and there is a future for all of us, there is no reason to get mad about artist leaving because there will be new ones and more to leave, like GAs in the future as well.