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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby HopelessOutsider » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:57 am

I can see why you would dislike them, but if
the owner didn't train the dog to socialize(in ALL breeds),
It's still there falt. Also I could have chosen to dislike the breed,
a pit bull killed my Dachshund, but I didn't. But just the same, a Lab,
one of the MOST POPULAR breeds there is today almost killed my Border
Collie, but nor do I dislike that breed. You see ALL breeds of dogs are
dangerous, but we don't dislike them. So why should we dislike this one?
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby borador » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:31 pm

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What you think about Dog fighting/abuse: It's horrible. I hate it. They 1) ruin dogs' reputations and 2) Bully, hit, etc. to make them mad and make them fight. I don't know how people find it entertaining.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby .Coyote » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:06 pm

TheOakTree wrote:
I can see why you would dislike them, but if
the owner didn't train the dog to socialize(in ALL breeds),
It's still there falt. Also I could have chosen to dislike the breed,
a pit bull killed my Dachshund, but I didn't. But just the same, a Lab,
one of the MOST POPULAR breeds there is today almost killed my Border
Collie, but nor do I dislike that breed. You see ALL breeds of dogs are
dangerous, but we don't dislike them. So why should we dislike this one?


Well, there are actually a LOT of breeds that I dislike. Including Dachshunds, no offence intended. In fact, I dislike many small dog breeds, because they are just like Pit bulls. They have a tendency to attack other dogs. I've had to stand around blocking tiny dogs from biting at mine while I waited for their owner to finally just pick them up already. Hmm, I guess I dislike small dog breeds even more than Pitts. Because when I kick and throw bricks at a Pit bull that has started attacking my dogs the owner makes no complaint. But when a little dog comes up with hair standing and tries to bite one of my dogs? I can't do anything about it without receiving multiple complaints on 'how dare I hurt a little dog? It can't do any harm...' My point is that other popular breeds, like Labradors, have no problems whatsoever with other dogs as a whole. What the individual dog does is different than what the breed as a whole is more likely to do. I do not hate labs, but I very much dislike one because that one tried to attack my dog. I hate pit bulls, but am rather fond of one that has shown no aggression or ill will toward my dogs or anyone elses.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Cardinal » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:00 pm

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TheOakTree wrote:Thank-you Nuclear! Also I have another fact for you.

"Rich or poor, American parents used to know exactly what pit bulls were famous for. Being great with kids."

- America's Nanny Dog is the victim of a smear campaign that has turned common sense upside-down and robbed us of our historical memory. The dogs that we trusted with our children's lives are now deemed too vicious to live among us. The dogs that in two World Wars were the symbol of the United States military itself are now ordered off its bases.* The Pit Bulls haven't changed at all. Only the owners have.
By Y.W. Grossman, June 2, 2011

- The truth is that this breed is and was The Nanny Dog's of USA. I don't know why WE
turned on them. Really there grate dogs for kids. At a shelter I volnteer at we have the sweetest pits in
the world and we also have a girl named Moma Dog(She came in a yearago with pups). EVERYONE loves her!
She is the most easy going dog. DX It hurts me that people hate pits!
-Fire(Me)


Well, I know why I turned on them. Or, not really turned on them, since I've done them no harm (except for one). I know that humans should have no real fear of pit bulls, but for those of us with other dogs pit bulls are just plain dangerous. They may be man's best friend, but they are a dog's worst enemy. It would be nice if pit bull owners would do the right thing and socialize their dogs with other dogs a lot throughout their life, but it just doesn't happen all that often. And then you get problems like mine, where you are relentlessly chased by them through the streets or you have to stand like a road block in between them and your dogs (which is very dangerous, I'll have you know). And all you wanted to do is take your dogs on a walk. And no, please don't start with the pitts in my neighborhood all being owned by bad people, because it just isn't true. They aren't training their dogs to fight, and the same dogs that I have problems with when I walk mine are completely civil and totally friendly when I walk by without a dog. They just have a natural disposition that makes them more likely to attack other dogs. So yeah, I sort of kind of hate them. I have met... One? One pit bull out of dozens that did not try to attack or threaten my dogs. So. I don't hate that one. Because she is awesome and a good example of what pitt owners should strive for in a dog.

Anyway, their reputation makes sense when you see it from the eyes of someone who has had their dogs attacked by pitts before. Or their chickens. My step sister lost her dear Jack Russell to her neighbor's pitts, who literally tore him apart. And these weren't fighting pitts either. They were family pets, just like the Jack Russell. And then you throw humans into the mix, who are just trying to save their dogs, and people get hurt. And everyone becomes afraid. Anyway, I'd love to see a group of pitt breeders that take special care in socializing their puppies DAILY, with as many dogs and cats and every other kind of animal they can find. Because Pit bulls really are great around kids and adults, but not really anything else because pet owners don't really think to socialize them. I know I didn't. Luckily the breed of dog that mine is tends to be very welcoming, and so is my dog. Even to the pit bull that attacked him.


I feel I must address this. If you hate one breed of dog for dog aggression you must hate ALL breeds of dog that show dog on dog aggression. Guardian breeds are known for same sex aggression, GSD, Rotties, Dobbies, mastiff breeds, etc. Terriers are typically dog aggressive. Chows were used as fighting dogs at one point. All bull dogs pretty much. Theres more, but I honestly do not feel like listing them all. Then you have your breeds that are ANIMAL aggressive such as Spitz, Sight hounds, Hunting breeds.. etc. I kind of fail to see how dog-on-dog aggression is any worse than animal aggression, besides picking and choosing what you as an owner are willing to deal with. Lastly there are those breeds that are human aggressive, do you hate those? Guardian breeds typically do not like strangers, 'stranger danger' runs VERY strongly in majority of herding breeds.

I think hating a breed of dog is very silly. Would I ever own a bully? Eh, probably not as they are not my cup of tea. I have things I will tolerate in a dog and things I will not. I'm cool with same-sex aggression, but will not tolerate full blown dog-on-dog aggression. While Pit Bulls are -typically- dog aggressive/intolerant/reactive, since it IS a spectrum, there are a load of bully types that have no issue with other dogs.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Jenn the Psycho » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:04 pm

I must agree with Cardinal there. And hating a breed of dog for an owner's ignorance (not intended rudely, just meaning a lack of knowledge) on socializing their puppies is about a pointless hate/dislike. You can't blame the dog for it's owners ignorance, it's useless. Any dog that isn't socialized can become aggressive towards other dogs and animals, and people. It's not reserved just to bully breeds, as stated above, any dog can be just as dangerous as the next. I know I've had dogs my whole life, pomeranians, chows, great danes, and mutts. We never had problems with them because we socialized them well, but some people don't understand that you have got to socialize your dogs if you want them to be nice. It's just not right to blame the breed as a whole for the owner not socializing them.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby HopelessOutsider » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:43 am

Jenn the Psycho wrote:I must agree with Cardinal there. And hating a breed of dog for an owner's ignorance (not intended rudely, just meaning a lack of knowledge) on socializing their puppies is about a pointless hate/dislike. You can't blame the dog for it's owners ignorance, it's useless. Any dog that isn't socialized can become aggressive towards other dogs and animals, and people. It's not reserved just to bully breeds, as stated above, any dog can be just as dangerous as the next. I know I've had dogs my whole life, pomeranians, chows, great danes, and mutts. We never had problems with them because we socialized them well, but some people don't understand that you have got to socialize your dogs if you want them to be nice. It's just not right to blame the breed as a whole for the owner not socializing them.


Exactly my point, thank-you for putting it in better words. XD
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Fighter Wolf » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:23 am

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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Cardinal » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:52 am

Jenn the Psycho wrote:I must agree with Cardinal there. And hating a breed of dog for an owner's ignorance (not intended rudely, just meaning a lack of knowledge) on socializing their puppies is about a pointless hate/dislike. You can't blame the dog for it's owners ignorance, it's useless. Any dog that isn't socialized can become aggressive towards other dogs and animals, and people. It's not reserved just to bully breeds, as stated above, any dog can be just as dangerous as the next. I know I've had dogs my whole life, pomeranians, chows, great danes, and mutts. We never had problems with them because we socialized them well, but some people don't understand that you have got to socialize your dogs if you want them to be nice. It's just not right to blame the breed as a whole for the owner not socializing them.


Eh, while socialization is EXTREMELY important, its not a guarantee that a well socialized dog will like every other dog or everyother person, ever. =) Genetics do play a role in base temperament and some breeds are naturally wary of people, just like some breeds naturally kill small furries and other breeds naturally have dog aggression.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Jenn the Psycho » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:04 am

Cardinal wrote:
Jenn the Psycho wrote:I must agree with Cardinal there. And hating a breed of dog for an owner's ignorance (not intended rudely, just meaning a lack of knowledge) on socializing their puppies is about a pointless hate/dislike. You can't blame the dog for it's owners ignorance, it's useless. Any dog that isn't socialized can become aggressive towards other dogs and animals, and people. It's not reserved just to bully breeds, as stated above, any dog can be just as dangerous as the next. I know I've had dogs my whole life, pomeranians, chows, great danes, and mutts. We never had problems with them because we socialized them well, but some people don't understand that you have got to socialize your dogs if you want them to be nice. It's just not right to blame the breed as a whole for the owner not socializing them.


Eh, while socialization is EXTREMELY important, its not a guarantee that a well socialized dog will like every other dog or everyother person, ever. =) Genetics do play a role in base temperament and some breeds are naturally wary of people, just like some breeds naturally kill small furries and other breeds naturally have dog aggression.


Yeah, I know, but as a general rule socilization does help alot, heck, small dogs have a thing with provoking bigger dogs and just being a pain, buy I'm kinda biased there, as I don't like small dogs.
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Re: Punish The Deed Not The Breed! (A Club Against Dog Fight

Postby Joe Kerr » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:49 am


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Favorite dog:
Favorite breed, or favorite dog
I own? My favorite breed is
Rescue, my favorite dog
I own is all of them! I've
included my parent's dogs
in my signature, but my
personal dogs are Lola and
Goldy. My Pit Bull Scherbatsy
wouldn't sit still long enough
for me to make a .gif of him xD

What you think about Dog fighting/abuse:
It boils my blood

How much do you love dogs and against Dog fighting:
I love dogs more than words can describe.
I hate dog fighting so much... Dog fighters
chopped off my Scherbatsky's ears. He
would be so cute with his ears..

Any thing you like to say?:
My family and I are working to become a 501(c) 3 Animal Rescue.
We already have 7 dogs in custody at the moment, most of which
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