The Artist Army

[mistywren]

I'm not trying to shoot them down, though. I take most critiques. Something about the redline looks off to me, and I don't want to fix something that doesn't look right.

I'm really not trying to be ungrateful or anything, just something isn't flowing.

Actually, you do shoot critiques down quite a lot, you've also gone after other people's redlines in the previous threads. Perhaps show the image you've referenced from.

[kivr & fireflii]

@Koiyote - My (Bel) 2 cents,
the muzzle is sloped a bit too harsh in that angle, so thickening it up a bit might cover that up. The eyes are a bit too sloped also.
From your defined sketch; the tail is a bit too long, since it should only reach to the heel of the back leg if it's in a resting pose. If it's curved, it should logically look more shorter then how it is normally. It would help the critics a lot if you showed us the reference picture that you used. And like you said, the ears being toned down, muzzle getting thicker, the body becoming more built is basically what the sketch needed for it to look a bit better then before. I mean, we are doing our best to point out even the smallest mistakes so that we can help others improve.

[NinthWolf]

Maybe would should move on from the Koiyote subject We don't want the thread getting locked ^^
Koi, you must remember that People are trying to help you and i know for certain Misty would never. ever. Give false or inadvanced advice. I know that the best artists can give false advice but she isn't. She is a very talented artist and it may benefit to listen
But your piece was very lovely, there are only a few mistakes which can easily be corrected, i know as a 'part time' traditional artist, its annoying to take critism as it is very difficult to correct mistakes with a rubber, you may find, softly tracing ( your own) picture and look at Misty's redline and go over the faulty parts in a more thicker line.

[mawsoleum]

@Koiyote - My (Bel) 2 cents,
the muzzle is sloped a bit too harsh in that angle, so thickening it up a bit might cover that up. The eyes are a bit too sloped also.
From your defined sketch; the tail is a bit too long, since it should only reach to the heel of the back leg if it's in a resting pose. If it's curved, it should logically look more shorter then how it is normally. It would help the critics a lot if you showed us the reference picture that you used. And like you said, the ears being toned down, muzzle getting thicker, the body becoming more built is basically what the sketch needed for it to look a bit better then before. I mean, we are doing our best to point out even the smallest mistakes so that we can help others improve.

I'll fix the muzzle now, I actually started to notice it was a bit off. The sloping eyes are sort of my style, though. I draw very narrow, sloped eyes with small pupils. I don't go for realism with them. Unless you mean something else?
As for the tail, it's supposed to be pretty darned long. It's not my design, I'm trying to adopt it. But I can make that smaller as well, sure.
But I don't see a big problem with the ears? They just sloped down in her redline some, that's all. It doesn't seem like some major error? And the thing that concerned me about the muzzle is that it was a bit too thick. Border Collies don't have super thick chins in their muzzles. They're sort of slender.

But I guess I'll stop here.
And Ninth, I know people are trying to help. You can't understand tone over the computer, and I'm not at all trying to be rude. But something looks off, and even the best of artists can give false advice.

Anyways, I'll check out.

[mistywren]

Alright, I'm going to be streaming at http://livestream.com/opaz and would love some company, working on the avian image I've been doing. However! If anyone needs redlines or crits I can do them live for you guys! Hope to see some of you there.

[NinthWolf]

I use emotes to get tone across over the internet

Snowflies- that piece is really nice! i love how it is blended and the bubbles glow- how do you get them to glow like that?
I like unlined art, i can never do it though

*sprints off to Mistys LS*

[rheia]

Shouldn't we, perhaps, move away from this? As Ninth said, we wouldn't want the army getting locked.

Koiyote, as for your drawing, I am completely inexperienced with canines, but the eyes look a little too sloped, like Bel said.

As for this, I wanted to try working on my traditional art, so, tada!

[Spotty]

As for this, I wanted to try working on my traditional art, so, tada!
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I should practice traditional drawing more oftenly, that looks really sweet.
A absolutely love the folds on the skin you put on the neck and chect, it gives a very realistic look. I think that you should be a little careful with the proportions though, the hind legs are a lot thicker than the front legs, and they look too big over all. The front legs looks just right though, I wish I could draw hooves like that.

[rheia]

As for this, I wanted to try working on my traditional art, so, tada!
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I should practice traditional drawing more oftenly, that looks really sweet.
A absolutely love the folds on the skin you put on the neck and chect, it gives a very realistic look. I think that you should be a little careful with the proportions though, the hind legs are a lot thicker than the front legs, and they look too big over all. The front legs looks just right though, I wish I could draw hooves like that.

Thank you. c:
I really need to find my eraser and get those back legs sorted.

[NinthWolf]

Shouldn't we, perhaps, move away from this? As Ninth said, we wouldn't want the army getting locked.

Koiyote, as for your drawing, I am completely inexperienced with canines, but the eyes look a little too sloped, like Bel said.

As for this, I wanted to try working on my traditional art, so, tada!

Nice
Crit;
shape the jaw bone a little more, it is more rounded than that
The back leg stretches a little too much into the main body, rub that out a little
The Knees need to be more rounded
and, make the head slightly bigger.

Hope that was simple to understand, i think making 'bullet points' would help rather than a big paragraph

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Could i have a redline on this? i've had trouble with the back leg and definately the belly.
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