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by Simonpet » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:15 am
@naming: I use variants of traditionalism depending on the location, so different fics and stories have slightly different systems. For example, I researched a lot of Lake Tahoe flora/fauna for one of my fics, and added -throat as a suffix that pops up late into the timeline. For a collaboration with my friend, we added a ton of suffixes along the lines of -spot + -shade that still represent appearance/skill. I also helped my friend come up with a bird-based suffix system, which was fun to do. For CAC, I'm just using Ailuronomy's system out of laziness.
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by ashton. » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:51 am
@dino
it looks pretty good to me! c:
@naming
for the most part i use whatever happens to pop into my head when i see the picture of the cat for the first time! but if nothing comes to me right away, i'll take a look at this for some ideas. then there's the times when you've decided that the cat will be an important character, so you want to give them a really unique name or one with a deeper meaning. in that case i think on it for a little while and sometimes they don't get a name for a day or two!
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by eltonn » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:54 am
@naming system
ah, my naming system for Yewclan is a bit strange?
Cats are allowed to keep their previous names of they wish (aka Howard and Flurry), or use them as a prefix (Applespeck, Thorntoes, Nightsage). Cats from Yewstar's old rogue group may keep the spacing in their names (Owl Flutter), or remove it if they choose (Sandy Hollow became Sandhollow). In some cases, a prefix may be changed to fit the area (Crescentpaw was owned by a baker before stumbling upon Yewclan, and had been named Croissant. This was changed to Crescent because when asked what a croissant was, she described it as a flaky crescent. The kits began calling her Flaky Crescent-paw, and it stuck).
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by deimido » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:06 am
➵ @ωolfie: yup i'm sol! my avatar isnt from a comic this time haha, its actually just fanart of spock from star trek and my username's just space-themed for the heck of it ;; (thanks for liking my taste in comics tho lol, also kinda curious in what u thought of winter woods! it ended recently and its kinda weird not being able to read wednesday updates anymore /sob)
@naming systems: i use ailuronymy haha, i've been meaning to research prefixes of things that exist where pineclan's supposed to be (coniferous forest) but i am real lazy haha
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by Chamrosh » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:48 am
@naming
I use something closer to the warriors' redux naming system.
The redux uses a few extra suffixes, such as -path to indicate a good mentor, because the creator finds it weird that only the female specific role of raising the next generation is deemed important in -flower, when being a mentor is just as important. They also use -throat, for a good diplomat, which is probably a good idea, because clans do need good diplomats to be able to function properly, or else they'd be constantly at war. They also have a few variant forms of the ancient clans' names, to try to make the culture more accurate, which you kind of need to read through to make more sense of.
Actually, on ailuronmy's blog, she says she never meant for her guide to be taken entirely seriously, for clans to choose prefixes most suitable for their area, and to just use hers as a basis of how to think things through.
She also said she had nothing like a full list of all the prefixes she could have, as she gave up searching for more after a certain point.
It was upon reading that that I felt I'd learned enough of the thinking to move onto whatever else, which is why I did a whole ton of looking up Cumbria-suitable prefixes, which is used instead of any online list.
I'm using -stone to signify a cat who's really calm and doesn't resort to violence before thoroughly considering things, -dash for an emotional cat who will act quickly and decisively in any situation (so -stone and -dash are basically opposites), -fish for a good fisher, because seriously, you'd have thought Riverclan would slightly celebrate that, and -scar for a cat who got severely injured as an apprentice, and the leader felt that a renaming ceremony would be appropriate, but as an apprentice they weren't then eligible, which obviously makes it pretty rare.
As -fang is meant to be a cat who's pretty good at fighting and hunting on ailuronmy, but other skills are also good enough to warrant an individual thing and no other combination is, I think that's not how I want to run with it. So -fang signifies a cat who's good at hunting + another thing, and -talon is a cat who's good at fighting + another thing, with -fang used for a cat good at hunting and fighting. There'll also be -bone and -blood, for cats who commit horrendous crimes as kits/apprentices (with -blood being worse than -bone), and it's deemed inappropriate to banish them at that age, but they still deserve no honour from any other cat, hence the demarkation.
Another issue I have with ailuronmy being the only source, is she says that cats can never have their names influenced by current events. I mean, in principle that's fair, but if you have a white cat who's born in winter, I think the presence of the snow constantly will have a psychological effect, and make them lean towards winter-themed names. Similarly, if a cat is born during a huge storm, and they're grey, the mother may have really big reservations about naming them after the storm due to the sort of stress that their kits name will bring up to the other kits in the nursery and so on, or they may see having the name Storm- as a sort of badge about how great their kit is. It still has to be appropriate, of course, for the colouration, but if you have a choice between two names that both suit the colour of the kit, why not pick the one relevant to the current situation if you want to?
And then there's Moraine, who if anyone hadn't guessed, I'm trying to make based off the Tribes. In my headcanon, they never teleported into continentally, and the second series is just in the Breacon Beacons, which does have the geography making sense. I mean, people's main evidence that it's not in the UK is Sharptooth- but we only see one, which implies he's not in his normal environment, and there's always been rumours of big cats escaping into mountainous areas of the UK from zoos, so that fits- and the tribes seeming to resemble some non-descript Native American culture- which is dumb because that assumes that inter-species cultural osmosis happened, because Wales is already really culturally isolated from the rest of Europe, and if inter-species cultural osmosis occurred, being in Wales would also explain how different they were, because it assumes that all Native American cultures were identical and you can just go "look they all fit this!", that patterns which make sense to one mountainous culture wouldn't make sense in another, that domesticated cats could have had access to Native Americans while they were still the largest US ethnic demographic, that most Native American tribes didn't just give single-word names to most of their children from what I can find, and.. a lot else, not least that inter-continentally teleporting cats makes more sense than it just being going from the M4 to the Breacon Beacons. I mean, most of the Erins hadn't been to the US at all, and I get the impression they put about 2 minutes thought into whether making the tribes a bad stereotype of literally all Native American tribes all together was a good idea.
Basically, Moraine is Welsh and a Tribe cat, hence her "knowing" about glaciers in my last post. And she's just going to name her kits either after things she's seen around camp recently, or things she's dreamed of in the last few days, in that same style the tribe cats have. If there were any issues with how the culture was portrayed, it was more the assumption that it had to be literally all Native American cultures being used as a basis (which already needs a lot of assumptions), than the actual idea itself, and I'm not going any further than using the naming style, as it does get a little problematic even without that assumption. And it'll be an effort from the rest of the clan to get her to accept her kits also getting more traditional clan names. And I plan that when she has kits, one will just entirely refuse to take a proper name, like his mum.
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by eltonn » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:05 am
@naming
another thing- on the warriors cats official forums, there was a REALLY REALLY huge prefix and suffix meaning list. I loved it and used it quite frequently. losing that was probably the only reason i was upset the forums closed. if anyone has that link still, or saved the list, please let me know ;;
it was by Jackal something??
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by ossa di cervo » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:57 am
Enchanted., wrote:@folly
maybe one of these?
hazelbreeze?
finchcloud?
foxnose?
copperwhisker?
sparrowwhisker?
turtlelight?
chestnutfur?
just some things that came to mind!
Thank you much for the suggestions! I actually was about to fall asleep last night when I suddenly thought Mousewillow and now I can't get it out of my head, haha.
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