The Pseudodragon Fanclub!

[ToastingCinnamon]

I'm not a part of the staff but if the owner of the species wants to edit the lines she can do anything she wants. It's her choice completely and if people threaten to quit being an artist, frankly, I think Pachoopi can easily find artists that would gladly make just as good designs, maybe even better. It's her species, she can do what she wants.

Thank you

[Lilian Nightshade]

Thank you for your support. I know Pachoo asked for critique, but she asked because she was hearing all the complaints (and some artists threatened to quit) about the new lines. She wanted to find common ground with the community.

The reason why several artists would quit was because they wouldn't feel comfortable at all using the new lineart for designing. I for example can assure you I wouldn't be able to pull off any designs in it given how unpractical it feels to me... nobody would be ragequitting, they simply would be leaving because they are literally uncapable of making proper designs for the species, and thus staying in the team makes no sense.

And to have this announcement shoved out of the blue at not only the community, but the artist team as well, was to say the least impacting. Nobody saw this coming neither was asked for feedback about this, and a change in this species this drastic would never have been taken lightly. In fact, it's actually really, really stressful instead. Nobody gave the artist team or the community time to warm up to the mere idea of a new lineart, let alone a whole finished thing.

I know Pachoo spent a long time and effort in that lineart, but maybe she could have just sketched a couple samples and showed the community for feedback first? This would have saved us all a lot of stress.

I don't mean to sound rude or harsh, I'm just trying to make you understand everybody's point of view here.

Edit:
And just a final note, I know Pachoo is the owner and is free to handle her species in any way she wants. However, a change of this kind doesn't involve only her, but the entire artist team as well. We should have been taken in consideration before this whole thing was done, because we are the ones who make the adoptables in the first place and thus contribute greatly for this species's development. We do this for fun, we do this because we love designing, and by shoving a lineart at us with no warning and expecting everybody to be fine with it just because the owner is, you're stealing the fun of those who are not comfortable with the change and never got to express their opinion about it in the first place.

And, indeed, she could hire new, willing artists for this new lineart if she wanted, they would be much more adapted to them to make good designs. But do not blame the current artists for "quitting" the team, because if they didn't they would have to struggle all the time to be productive in a lineart not fit at all for them... and thus what used to be a fun hobbie would then become nothing but a stressful chore. So yes, people are expected to leave in such situation.

[Beatnik]

Doing a jm to experiment a bit~

New link (wow jm crash already)

[jinixe]

Thank you for your support. I know Pachoo asked for critique, but she asked because she was hearing all the complaints (and some artists threatened to quit) about the new lines. She wanted to find common ground with the community.

The reason why several artists would quit was because they wouldn't feel comfortable at all using the new lineart for designing. I for example can assure you I wouldn't be able to pull off any designs in it given how unpractical it feels to me... nobody would be ragequitting, they simply would be leaving because they are literally uncapable of making proper designs for the species, and thus staying in the team makes no sense.

And to have this announcement shoved of the blue at not only the community, but the artist team as well, was to say the least impacting. Nobody saw this coming neither was asked for feedback about this, and a change in this species this drastic would never have been taken lightly. In fact, it's actually really, really stressful instead. Nobody gave the artist team or the community time to warm up to the mere idea of a new lineart, let alone a whole finished thing.

I know Pachoo spent a long time and effort in that lineart, but maybe she could have just sketched a couple samples and showed the community for feedback first? This would have saved us all a lot of stress.

I don't mean to sound rude or harsh, I'm just trying to make you understand everybody's point of view here.

I'm going to agree with this.

[The Glass Doe]

I think i'll sneak out of my cozy little nook of the internet and give my two cents

Basically, pachoo is bae. Shes the bombdiggity
and to see her upset, well, makes me pretty...bummed out?

sure, it was a drastic change to the species.
sure, people can agree or disagree with it.
sure, people can decide they aren't really interested in the species new anatomy.

but when people start acting so unkind to someone who has put so much effort into a species that's free to adopt, well, it makes me sad.

Lets get one thing straight here, im not saying people in the fanclub are being mean, but maybe, just maybe
if you think about it
people are being unkind behind the scenes, ya know
where you cant see em'
it sucks o3o; a lot.
I dont like seeing it happen, and it just shouldnt be happening period
try digging up a little kindness and not making someone feel so ding dang bad about themselves

I repeat, I dont know whos being unkind to pachoo, im not pointing fingers at any particular person.
If you sent her something hurtful/unkind/rude, you know who you are.
I have /no/ idea who you are, but you know who you are.

[palmsprout]

What things would you change/alter about the new lines? What things bug you/what do you like?
they are perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foreign-potato]

And just a final note, I know Pachoo is the owner and is free to handle her species in any way she wants. However, a change of this kind doesn't involve only her, but the entire artist team as well. We should have been taken in consideration before this whole thing was done, because we are the ones who make the adoptables in the first place and thus contribute greatly for this species's development. We do this for fun, we do this because we love designing, and by shoving a lineart at us with no warning and expecting everybody to be fine with it just because the owner is, you're stealing the fun of those who are not comfortable with the change and never got to express their opinion about it in the first place.

Actually no, the artist team does not need to brought into the picture when it comes to lines. Yes, they do make designs and help the species but it's Pachoo's generosity that also gave you the power in the community as an artist/staff but also with other species benefits like customs. The lines are up to Pachoo's and only Pachoo's choice and it is so so rude that her own STAFF members that she chose as her trusted members of her species are rebelling against her new lines. It is only her choice and only her power, no other species owner has to baby around their staff members for line approval, and if the owner does, they would expect support from their own staff. You guys should all be supportive of the species if you really liked and appreciated it in the first place. Pachoo does not need the approval of her artists over new lines and frankly you CAN leave, you are right, you won't be missed with that kind of attitude. Shame on you.

I am so, so disgusted by this. And so, so sorry for Pachoo. Honey, do what you want and what makes you happy, you poured your heart into those lines and your anatomy is spot on. ♡♡ When I saw those lines, before I even knew any of this crap was going on, I LOVED them! It shows how much you have grown as an artist since those old lines, your art has improved so much and 'Sueds are changing so wonderfully with more realistic forms. ♡ Your art is ALWAYS outstanding and do not doubt yourself! I honestly am in full support of those lines if you continue to use them. ♡ Mama Tates is here for you always. :")

[madrilenial]

And just a final note, I know Pachoo is the owner and is free to handle her species in any way she wants. However, a change of this kind doesn't involve only her, but the entire artist team as well. We should have been taken in consideration before this whole thing was done, because we are the ones who make the adoptables in the first place and thus contribute greatly for this species's development. We do this for fun, we do this because we love designing, and by shoving a lineart at us with no warning and expecting everybody to be fine with it just because the owner is, you're stealing the fun of those who are not comfortable with the change and never got to express their opinion about it in the first place.

Actually no, the artist team does not need to brought into the picture when it comes to lines. Yes, they do make designs and help the species but it's Pachoo's generosity that also gave you the power in the community as an artist/staff but also with other species benefits like customs. The lines are up to Pachoo's and only Pachoo's choice and it is so so rude that her own STAFF members that she chose as her trusted members of her species are rebelling against her new lines. It is only her choice and only her power, no other species owner has to baby around their staff members for line approval, and if the owner does, they would expect support from their own staff. You guys should all be supportive of the species if you really liked and appreciated it in the first place. Pachoo does not need the approval of her artists over new lines and frankly you CAN leave, you are right, you won't be missed with that kind of attitude. Shame on you.

I am so, so disgusted by this. And so, so sorry for Pachoo. Honey, do what you want and what makes you happy, you poured your heart into those lines and your anatomy is spot on. ♡♡ When I saw those lines, before I even knew any of this crap was going on, I LOVED them! It shows how much you have grown as an artist since those old lines, your art has improved so much and 'Sueds are changing so wonderfully with more realistic forms. ♡ Your art is ALWAYS outstanding and do not doubt yourself! I honestly am in full support of those lines if you continue to use them. ♡ Mama Tates is here for you always. :")

PREACH
PREACH, PREACH, PREACH
PREACHHHH

[palmsprout]

perfect words edited out not to spam

^^^^ bless
-thumbs up-

[ToastingCinnamon]

And just a final note, I know Pachoo is the owner and is free to handle her species in any way she wants. However, a change of this kind doesn't involve only her, but the entire artist team as well. We should have been taken in consideration before this whole thing was done, because we are the ones who make the adoptables in the first place and thus contribute greatly for this species's development. We do this for fun, we do this because we love designing, and by shoving a lineart at us with no warning and expecting everybody to be fine with it just because the owner is, you're stealing the fun of those who are not comfortable with the change and never got to express their opinion about it in the first place.

Actually no, the artist team does not need to brought into the picture when it comes to lines. Yes, they do make designs and help the species but it's Pachoo's generosity that also gave you the power in the community as an artist/staff but also with other species benefits like customs. The lines are up to Pachoo's and only Pachoo's choice and it is so so rude that her own STAFF members that she chose as her trusted members of her species are rebelling against her new lines. It is only her choice and only her power, no other species owner has to baby around their staff members for line approval, and if the owner does, they would expect support from their own staff. You guys should all be supportive of the species if you really liked and appreciated it in the first place. Pachoo does not need the approval of her artists over new lines and frankly you CAN leave, you are right, you won't be missed with that kind of attitude. Shame on you.

I am so, so disgusted by this. And so, so sorry for Pachoo. Honey, do what you want and what makes you happy, you poured your heart into those lines and your anatomy is spot on. ♡♡ When I saw those lines, before I even knew any of this crap was going on, I LOVED them! It shows how much you have grown as an artist since those old lines, your art has improved so much and 'Sueds are changing so wonderfully with more realistic forms. ♡ Your art is ALWAYS outstanding and do not doubt yourself! I honestly am in full support of those lines if you continue to use them. ♡ Mama Tates is here for you always. :")

YAAAS