LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby polerberr » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:50 am

Darkfire27 wrote:I've watched the films and love the music but I have read the books but I will


I have the entire soundtrack of the movies on my iPod. ^^
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Bilbo Baggins. » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:50 am

Goldenstarfc wrote:
    I fangirl over Merry and Aragorn. At my friend's birthday party on the first, we watched the first LotR as a couple of the girls there hadn't seen it and they wanted to, and one of them decided her favorites were Merry and Aragorn, in that order, just like me. XD

*highfive* Merry and Aragorn are my favorites too! They're the most like me out of all the characters. Except, well, they're male. I'm not. But other than that, I'm pretty much exactly like Merry.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby polerberr » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:55 am

Bilbo Baggins. wrote:They're the most like me out of all the characters. Except, well, they're male.


That reminded me of something. The characters of the Lord of the Rings are more than 50% male. None of the fellowship are female, there are no female wizards. The only ones I can name are Eowyn, Galadriel, Arwen and Rosie. Do you guys think that this movie is better because it's not the stereotypical "hero get's the girl" movie? Frodo never got a girl, neither did Legolas, or Gimli, or Boromir. There were only three relationships by the end of the trilogy, I believe. One of them was already in place when it started (Arwen and Aragorn). I prefer it this way, and I feel it's part of why it's so unique. Take Harry Potter for example, by the end of it, all the characters still alive pretty much got together with another character, so it just kind of seemed like one giant ship-fest xD
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby ShortyTheHobbitess » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:58 am

Yes my people! I saw the Hobbit last night and loved it :3 but I have to say in some parts Thorin looked a little girly :lol:

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Bilbo Baggins. » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:59 am

polerberr wrote:
Bilbo Baggins. wrote:They're the most like me out of all the characters. Except, well, they're male.


That reminded me of something. The characters of the Lord of the Rings are more than 50% male. None of the fellowship are female, there are no female wizards. The only ones I can name are Eowyn, Galadriel, Arwen and Rosie. Do you guys think that this movie is better because it's not the stereotypical "hero get's the girl" movie? Frodo never got a girl, neither did Legolas, or Gimli, or Boromir. There were only three relationships by the end of the trilogy, I believe. One of them was already in place when it started (Arwen and Aragorn).

As much as I hate to say this, Tolkien was very much your standard professor type- stuffy, studious, and most certainly NOT a feminist. He stuck to the belief that men were superior to women, and therefore didn't include many female heroes. I'm not sure what the deal is with Eowyn...I'm definitely no expert on he life of Tolkien. But I do know that that is the reason for the lack of female involvement.

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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby frobischer » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:02 am

polerberr wrote:
Bilbo Baggins. wrote:They're the most like me out of all the characters. Except, well, they're male.


That reminded me of something. The characters of the Lord of the Rings are more than 50% male. None of the fellowship are female, there are no female wizards. The only ones I can name are Eowyn, Galadriel, Arwen and Rosie. Do you guys think that this movie is better because it's not the stereotypical "hero get's the girl" movie? Frodo never got a girl, neither did Legolas, or Gimli, or Boromir. There were only three relationships by the end of the trilogy, I believe. One of them was already in place when it started (Arwen and Aragorn). I prefer it this way, and I feel it's part of why it's so unique. Take Harry Potter for example, by the end of it, all the characters still alive pretty much got together with another character, so it just kind of seemed like one giant ship-fest xD

Which is one of the reasons I like it so much, because there's not a lot to ship. And I don't really ship.

I am apparently most like Legolas, which I guess fits, but I think I'm a combination of him and Pippin. Legolas isn't very mischievous, and I'm more....... umm...... uh...... outgoing than him, I guess?
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Nellas » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:07 am

I just bought the 2-disk version soundtrack of The Hobbit in that gorgeous red case <333

And I like what you're saying, polerberr. It was never about that for Tolkien; he was like that, as Bilbo was saying :3 But then, at the same time, in that kind of 'lifestyle' without all this technology and whatnot, men would be more suprerior as they had to protect and fight and hunt and such, whereas the women kept the house. If you think about it, women are more important than people gave them credit for because they're a necessary part of the man's life, but it wasn't viewed as such. I don't really remember where I was going with this so I'm just going to hope it makes sense if I leave it like this :3

And I don't really believe in fangirling, either. I used to fangirl over each and every book I read, to the point that several of my friends said it was useless reading the book itself because they already knew every little detail ^^ But once I discovered Tolkien, I grew out of fangirling. The love I feel for Tolkien's works isn’t like that, it’s the deep kind that stems from pure respect and admiration, and a thirst to learn more about him and his works. I don't really fall 'inlove' with characters anymore either, I'm not actually sure why, but even so.
I don't have anything against fangirling; but my opinion is that it can be rather shallow and sometimes unnappreciative of how things really are. I just like to think I've grown out of it, is all.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby polerberr » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:20 am

Bilbo Baggins. wrote:
polerberr wrote:
Bilbo Baggins. wrote:They're the most like me out of all the characters. Except, well, they're male.


That reminded me of something. The characters of the Lord of the Rings are more than 50% male. None of the fellowship are female, there are no female wizards. The only ones I can name are Eowyn, Galadriel, Arwen and Rosie. Do you guys think that this movie is better because it's not the stereotypical "hero get's the girl" movie? Frodo never got a girl, neither did Legolas, or Gimli, or Boromir. There were only three relationships by the end of the trilogy, I believe. One of them was already in place when it started (Arwen and Aragorn).

As much as I hate to say this, Tolkien was very much your standard professor type- stuffy, studious, and most certainly NOT a feminist. He stuck to the belief that men were superior to women, and therefore didn't include many female heroes. I'm not sure what the deal is with Eowyn...I'm definitely no expert on he life of Tolkien. But I do know that that is the reason for the lack of female involvement.

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That makes a lot of sense, of course, but do you prefer it this way or do you prefer it when there's loads of relationships in the story?

@Pippin: Me too, I'm not huge for shipping. Although I find the Flarry ship funny ((Harry Potter and the floor: the link is nothing inappropriate, just not very LotR related XD http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/FLARRY.+my+friend+showed+this+to+me+This+is+FLARRY+It+s_fff219_4067454.jpg))

@Nellas: I wish I could have the soundtrack as a disk, but I can't find it and I'm only going to end up downloading the disk to my iPod anyway, so I may as well get the itunes version. XD And what you said makes sense. Back then it was the women's job to take care of the family, and the man's job to provide. And back in those days I doubt anybody felt offended at this as people would nowadays. Although there is something in the Lord of the Rings for the more feminist people, Eowyn, as mentioned by Bilbo. Also your paragraph about fangirling is the truest thing I have ever read about fangirling. Most of my friends are the fangirl type, though. I remember discussing The Avengers with some people a while ago. I asked them who their favorite character was. They all said things like "Well Thor is really hot... but so is Captain America..." It bugged me. I asked them who their favorite character was, not who was the hottest. If people are really judging characters by their looks, they can hardly call themselves "fans".
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby strawbewwy. » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:25 am

Nellas Lissësúl wrote:And I don't really believe in fangirling, either. I used to fangirl over each and every book I read, to the point that several of my friends said it was useless reading the book itself because they already knew every little detail ^^ But once I discovered Tolkien, I grew out of fangirling. The love I feel for Tolkien's works isn’t like that, it’s the deep kind that stems from pure respect and admiration, and a thirst to learn more about him and his works. I don't really fall 'inlove' with characters anymore either, I'm not actually sure why, but even so.
I don't have anything against fangirling; but my opinion is that it can be rather shallow and sometimes unnappreciative of how things really are. I just like to think I've grown out of it, is all.


This. This is so true.
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Re: LORD OF THE RINGS!!!

Postby Lunaestrella » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:32 am

Nellas Lissësúl wrote:And I don't really believe in fangirling, either. I used to fangirl over each and every book I read, to the point that several of my friends said it was useless reading the book itself because they already knew every little detail ^^ But once I discovered Tolkien, I grew out of fangirling. The love I feel for Tolkien's works isn’t like that, it’s the deep kind that stems from pure respect and admiration, and a thirst to learn more about him and his works. I don't really fall 'inlove' with characters anymore either, I'm not actually sure why, but even so.
I don't have anything against fangirling; but my opinion is that it can be rather shallow and sometimes unnappreciative of how things really are. I just like to think I've grown out of it, is all.


polerberr wrote: Also your paragraph about fangirling is the truest thing I have ever read about fangirling. Most of my friends are the fangirl type, though. I remember discussing The Avengers with some people a while ago. I asked them who their favorite character was. They all said things like "Well Thor is really hot... but so is Captain America..." It bugged me. I asked them who their favorite character was, not who was the hottest. If people are really judging characters by their looks, they can hardly call themselves "fans".


Same here. I love characters for their personalities, and how well the writer has developed them and so on, but I think that saying that a character is your favourite just because they are "hot", is quite annoying. A character isn't all about it's looks, it's about its personality,too. Thinking a character is extremely good-looking isn't bad, in my opinion, but I hate it when it's the only thing people pay attention to :(
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