Middle Earth! {Lord of the Rings & The Hobbit} V4

[Amy43]

There is also a possibility of Bilbo having been comfortable enough to teach Bofur the song, but had not at all expected him to choose to sing it in such a refined place. x3 hence the discomfort.
Though it is also possible that PJ simply threw the song in for the heck of it, as you said. FOTR never determines exactly WHEN Bilbo writes that song...
In the book, they did say that the Company bonded some in the first stretches of their journey, but this is the movie... hmm. We can't be entirely sure by this point.

I have a feeling that Bilbo wrote the song to be sang in a more proper, refined way, since that's how he is, but Bofur made it wild since that's how dwarves usually are.

Bilbo doesn't seem like someone who would perform a song that way (jumping on a table and throwing food) no matter what the environment is. That's just based on his other behavior (like being upset about them clinking silverware together). I think hobbits in general are less wild than dwarves, especially richer hobbits like Bilbo.

[fletch]

I'm new to this topic.
There's been many little 'easter eggs' sort of like this in the Hobbit movies. In the first movie, Gandalf makes a comment on how: "Home is behind, the world ahead." I don't know how the song originated, but in the third LOTR film, Pippin sings a song to Denethor with the exact line. There was also something in DOS that I can't remember that was linked to the LOTR trilogy, and I'm trying to remember what it was xD

[Amberfly]

I'm new to this topic.
There's been many little 'easter eggs' sort of like this in the Hobbit movies. In the first movie, Gandalf makes a comment on how: "Home is behind, the world ahead." I don't know how the song originated, but in the third LOTR film, Pippin sings a song to Denethor with the exact line. There was also something in DOS that I can't remember that was linked to the LOTR trilogy, and I'm trying to remember what it was xD

I don't know if this is what you're asking, but the poem is from the Fellowship of the Ring book. Tolkien wrote it as part of a much longer song, and it appears in the third chapter, "Three is Company". When Frodo, Sam, and Pippin are walking cross-country from Hobbiton to Buckland (a section omitted from the movie adaptation), they start singing that song near the end of the day's march. Actually the majority of the poetry and songs that appear in the movies were written by Tolkien, but they sometimes appear in very different settings in the books, or with some lines changed, omitted, or merged with other songs. Even some of the chapter titles appear in the movie dialogue if you know where look for them =)

/extremely nerdy outburst

[Greenleaf]

I'm new to this topic.
There's been many little 'easter eggs' sort of like this in the Hobbit movies. In the first movie, Gandalf makes a comment on how: "Home is behind, the world ahead." I don't know how the song originated, but in the third LOTR film, Pippin sings a song to Denethor with the exact line. There was also something in DOS that I can't remember that was linked to the LOTR trilogy, and I'm trying to remember what it was xD

Welcome, Ember24! :3
Yeah, there were a few FOTR movie references in DoS; for example, while the hobbits are in the town of Bree, searching for the Prancing Pony Inn at the beginning of FOTR, there's a really brief Peter Jackson cameo; he walks across the screen eating a carrot. In DoS at the beginning 'flashback' to Thorin and Gandalf's first meeting, Peter Jackson makes almost the exact same cameo with him eating the carrot. x3
There's also this black cat with yellow/green eyes inside the Prancing Pony inn that appears both in FOTR and DoS. It's adorable. x3

[The Winter Soldier]

gets live a good 10-25 years O.o of course the cats still around XD PJ is also in one of the battle scenes in one of the trilogy movies XD alot of producers put themselves in movies including Stan lee.

[fletch]

I definitely noticed Peter there. I think the cat was actually mentioned in the out takes a one point. But I can't exactly remember what it symbolized. I'm watching The Hobbit tomorrow, so I'll look around for some Easter eggs. Also, there was much longer than a 10-25 year span there, so it's well beyond a typical cat lifespan.
Edit: In one point, Tauriel says: "We're part of this world," whilst in the Two Towers Merry yells at Treebeard and tells him that "But you're part of this world!" Also, the exact weed used to heal Kili is also used on Frodo in the Fellowship. They mention both times that it is a weed.

[Nemraeg Taog]

I'm new to this topic.
There's been many little 'easter eggs' sort of like this in the Hobbit movies. In the first movie, Gandalf makes a comment on how: "Home is behind, the world ahead." I don't know how the song originated, but in the third LOTR film, Pippin sings a song to Denethor with the exact line. There was also something in DOS that I can't remember that was linked to the LOTR trilogy, and I'm trying to remember what it was xD

Welcome to the thread! Many of those little "easter eggs" are some of the reasons why I absolutely despise what Peter Jackson has done to The Hobbit. He rehashes a fair amount of lines that he used in The Lord of the Rings movies, as well as misplaces tiny bits of songs or lines, that I believe should stay exactly where Tolkien placed them. The small bits and pieces are some of the few things that I think make The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit great. Peter Jackson is simply adding them to have them in his movies. And now I am gunna go walk away from my computer since talking about those movies just gets me angry.... O-o;

[Amy43]

Welcome to the thread! Many of those little "easter eggs" are some of the reasons why I absolutely despise what Peter Jackson has done to The Hobbit. He rehashes a fair amount of lines that he used in The Lord of the Rings movies, as well as misplaces tiny bits of songs or lines, that I believe should stay exactly where Tolkien placed them. The small bits and pieces are some of the few things that I think make The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit great. Peter Jackson is simply adding them to have them in his movies. And now I am gunna go walk away from my computer since talking about those movies just gets me angry.... O-o;

That's exactly why I'm confused about the placement of Bilbo's song (according to the book) with Bofur performing it in Rivendell.

[Greenleaf]

Yeah, I didn't particularly enjoy some of the butchering of songs that PJ put into the Hobbit movies. Like, I understand why they cut the Blunt the Knives song a bit in AUJ, but why did they have to completely switch around and even change the verses of 'The King beneath the Mountain' rhyme?

Edit: omg, I found out through research that Tolkien may have intended Rohan's adjective and language be dubbed 'Rohanese' instead of the more-commonly used 'Rohirric'. I just found this insanely funny for some reason.

[Amy43]

Is this an April Fool's joke, or is this real?

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/04/01/87992-there-and-back-again-moves-to-july-2015-world-premiere-at-comic-con

Because there's no big "APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!" at the end.

If it is real, why did they announce it on a day like this?