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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Atheon » Mon May 04, 2015 8:36 am

Urushihara wrote:
sergio. wrote:Well, guess who's reading Mapleshade's Vengeance? Do you know how DUMB some of the cat's names are? Here are some.
Shyheart
Birchface
Beetail
Eeltail
Spiketail
Midgepelt

Like.... what?
And, there's at least one good part. The maps! Anyone want pictures of them?



What's wrong with Birchface, Beetail, and Eeltail?

Just imagine a cat with birch on his face. And a cat with bees as it's tail. And does a cat know what an eel is?
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Silxe » Mon May 04, 2015 8:48 am

sergio. wrote:
Urushihara wrote:
sergio. wrote:Well, guess who's reading Mapleshade's Vengeance? Do you know how DUMB some of the cat's names are? Here are some.
Shyheart
Birchface
Beetail
Eeltail
Spiketail
Midgepelt

Like.... what?
And, there's at least one good part. The maps! Anyone want pictures of them?



What's wrong with Birchface, Beetail, and Eeltail?

Just imagine a cat with birch on his face. And a cat with bees as it's tail. And does a cat know what an eel is?

*Shrugs*. They sound like perfectly acceptable names to me, minus Shyheart (What if the kit grew up to be brave and cocky?) And Spiketail (Just, Spikekit. Why).
The thing about traditional names is the first part should describe the looks. Does a cat have a golden pelt? Then it might resemble the colouring of honey, or a bee. That is because fur colour is all you can judge from a new kit.
The second part should be after a skill. Is she/he a good hunter? Whisker will fit great. Very handsome/beautiful? Face will suit them. Very quick and speedy? Foot is a great suffix. Also, it should be after a positive thing about that cat. Giving them the suffix trip because they are clumsy is a very bad choice.
Just let me use this as an example: Snailfoot. He is not a slow cat, but a very fast one with colouring like a snail. That's how traditional names work.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby detective who. » Mon May 04, 2015 8:49 am

Urushihara wrote:
sergio. wrote:Well, guess who's reading Mapleshade's Vengeance? Do you know how DUMB some of the cat's names are? Here are some.
Shyheart
Birchface
Beetail
Eeltail
Spiketail
Midgepelt

Like.... what?
And, there's at least one good part. The maps! Anyone want pictures of them?



What's wrong with Birchface, Beetail, and Eeltail?


    Midgepelt is also a conceivable traditional name; I know there are midges in Scotland, but I'm not sure where else in the UK.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Lily06 » Mon May 04, 2015 1:16 pm

Warrior Cats is the best series of books I have ever read in my life , I love it ! :) And my favorite caracter's is Blue Star, she is wonderful ! :D
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby bronzebones » Mon May 04, 2015 2:22 pm

Since it was confirmed when the Warriors live, they DO know what eels are.

http://ailuronymy.tumblr.com/post/27826 ... prefix-eel

Look at it.


Birchface would be either a pale gray tabby or a dappled/flecked cat who is handsome/pretty.


Beetail would be a golden brown/golden tabby with excellent balance.


Eeltail would be a very dark brown cat with a good change of a white underbelly and would have good balance.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Atheon » Mon May 04, 2015 3:12 pm

Arcaii wrote:So many people using traditionalism... it puts a happy tear in my eye.

I was once at an adoptable here on CS that we were forced to used traditional names. :T
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Mon May 04, 2015 4:45 pm

Well, I don't want that being forced on others. Though if it's the rule of the thread, that's different.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Tue May 05, 2015 4:30 am

Chapter Eighteen

Time to reel back on the hate a bit.

I'll admit that there's some stuff I like about this chapter. Fireheart's first experience with snow is entertaining, and he rightfully berates Graystripe for ignoring his duties and not even bothering to ask about Fireheart's problems (which are numerable). I also like the contrast between Fireheart's reactions to death and sickness and Speckletail's - a nice comparison of one who lived in a very soft, safe life and one who has experienced the harsh reality of the world since she was born. Even when Fireheart is getting catnip and contemplating his old life vs his new one is interesting. It's honestly a pretty good start to the chapter.

And then Princess happens.

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So, let's see. She knows about greencough, despite never experiencing it, and she knows the terminology and severity of it. Assuming that Fireheart told her about it, that means that he didn't bother to tell her that Clan leaders magically gain nine lives when they become leaders? I would think that's incredibly notable, more so than a sickness.

Which is, you know, whatever, until...

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Okay, first things first. Princess' entire character revolves around her being blithe and airheaded. She gives one of her kits away into a harsh lifestyle just because brother. She's that stupid. So why does she randomly suggests that it was a trap with no possible hints to bring her to that conclusion at all? Couldn't Fireheart have figured this out himself? Did the Hunters decide that she needed to do something for the story, so they threw that out of left field? This is ridiculous.

Also, Fireheart is very well aware that Tigerclaw deliberately murdered a deputy, and has noticed that he was vying for a leadership position for a long time. I don't know why the idea of a clearly sociopathic cat who's killed once and was planning to kill an apprentice trying to murder his leader is so shocking.

And, like that, the good mood ends. When Fireheart returns, Tigerclaw demands to know where Graystripe is going. It drives me crazy that no one has noticed Fireheart's disappearance, or his frequent vanishing, or the fact that he's been lying down next to a stranger cat and the scent should still be on him or at the very least, the scent of something he did to cover it up.

Whatever. Protagonist convenience, I guess.

Fireheart visits Yellowfang and Cinderpaw, where Yellowfang admits her insecurities about her inability to stop the spread of greencough by asking if he thinks Spottedleaf could do better. Spottedleaf was said to be very skilled at such a young age, but I'd like to put a little reminder here.

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Yellowfang is known to be very wise and, presumably, skilled. Since this Clan does not follow traditionalism (in which the suffix -leaf would imply prodigious skills in the art of medicine), Yellowfang should be at least on par with Spottedleaf, and thus have no reason to be worried about the ability of some younger cat who died at least two moons ago.

There's a nice moment in the den where Fireheart apologizes to Frostfur (Cinderpaw's mother) because he feels certain that it was his fault she got hit, and Frostfur gently tells him that she doesn't blame him in the slightest. The interaction is brief, but I think it's important.

And then my second run of brief levity is ruined by another session of Graystripe being an idiot and Fireheart being exasperated and hypocritical.

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You know, I think we should rename him to Potheart so him calling the kettle black could be EVEN MORE APPARENT.

Up next: Chapter Nineteen.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby lady chocobo » Tue May 05, 2015 3:31 pm

I was reading this yesterday, and I enjoy your critique of the books. :3 I enjoyed these as a kid (and still do) but maaaan, the Erins and their writing. I love to hate it, I guess.

The fact that Fireheart can't figure out it's a trap on his own and needs Princess to suggest it to him is crazy. I never cared for her. She's just boring. :p
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