Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Atheon » Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:35 am

*pokes everyone* has anyone else read wings of fire? it's by one of the erin hunters. (yes there are 4)
my favorite is titanium and I barely read the books woo
ok, what about the hunger games? im a little over halfway on the first one, I've seen a bit of the movie. cato is my favorite
ashfur is ok, I understand what happened to him and the whole plot twist love affair. he's still not the best, spoiler I feel bad for seedpaw when she died D:
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby *Frozen* » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:11 am

I love Guardians of Gahoole also and think it is really well written. I always wished that Ashfur would have gone to the Dark Foret because he was BAD people!
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby sumireko » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:38 am

oh i loooove guardians of ga'hoole, it's such a fun read!

ashfur makes me so disappointed because i didnt even think he was that bad! i LIKED him and then suddenly he became Friendzone Boy Extraordinaire?!!? wh y
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Comettail76 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:36 am

Toxi+Bbun wrote:
Comettail76 wrote:I actually like some of the villains - as villains, though, I wouldn't want to be friends with them or anything. I like Mapleshade, due to how clever she was in Crookedstar's Promise, and Sol was refreshing after cats like Thistleclaw, Darkstripe, Hawkfrost, and Brokenstar, although he does have the issue of being a tortoiseshell tom. Tigerclaw was okay, but nothing I especially care for. Scourge was okay also, although I tend to avoid any fanfics pairing him up with someone (and there are a lot of them!). As you may be able to tell, I prefer clever villains over the ones who primarily use their strength.


Thistleclaw wasn't so much of a villain as he was someone victim of author bias, but that's just my opinion-
Otherwise, gotta agree with ya on those opinions - Mapleshade rocks, and Sol's cool. Scourge X other tends to be bad so I don't really like 'em much.

Brokenstar was the most flat villain of them all, and Darkstripe is just a pathetic loser.


True, I think antagonist is the word that works more for Thistleclaw, but not really villain.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby I r o n. » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:58 am

SPOILER:
Alright, I admit, he would have been 'better off' in Dark Forest, yet it wasn't his fault. Knowing his personality from the past books, he wasn't all that bad, he was quite nice. But over-protective. He loved Squirrelflight, obviously, and when Squirrelflight and.. Brambleclaw, started becoming friends, it was like, "don't touch my babe man.." and then he went psycho because he thought Squirrelflight was cheating on him..

*sigh* then, Hollyleaf came in.. and of course, ruinded everything! Am I the only one who thinks that the writters of Warriors', thinks that every good cat shall live. (other then, Firestar-.-) Atleast let one bad cat get away with it, and do something intresting.. that would be quite nice..? hmm.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:19 pm

Super sorry to make you all wait!

Chapter Fourteen and Fifteen

Firepaw has an odd dream in which ThunderClan is freaking out and fleeing from something. You know, I generally don't mind when a character has a dream that's vaguely related to what's happening or going to happen, and given that I'm guilty of it, I won't give it too much of a hard time. I find it weird, though, that Firepaw automatically knows that the cats running are ThunderClan just by their coats. There's lots of cats that are colored like that in all the Clans. Why didn't they just say "he could recognize them by the smell"?

Also, why did Spottedleaf give the cats their herbs last night? Why not this morning, when the herbs are actually relevant and not in the way? That's weird.

I find it interesting that leaders aren't allowed to eat at all, not even herbs, when they go to the Moonstone. I can't remember if that continues to be a thing, but it's a neat little bit of worldbuilding. I imagine it stemmed from a few leaders wanting to make sure that whatever dreams they received weren't from some strange herbs or a bad mouse, and it eventually turned into a sort of "if you eat before you meet your ancestors, that's disrespectful" thing.

It reminds me of a book about wolves in which a wolf visits the afterlife and she's told not to let any of the ghosts touch her, because then they become attached to the physical world and try to keep her there. While it was a weird segment in the book, it was a cool concept.

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Man, is that obvious "you're going to die in a few chapters" dialog or what?!

Pro-tip, kids: When you're writing some final interactions between two characters, do not make them be all friendly and affectionate before one of them suddenly dies. It's an old trick your readers will see coming a million miles away, and one that your characters will likely see coming too.Treat it like you would: you're not gunna assume that your parents will die in a horrible car crash when they pop out to get milk. So your character should treat it the same way.

Graypaw and Lionheart should have had a conversation that was ultimately, "Well, have fun, be careful, I'll see you when you get back!" This is very clearly supposed to make us care more about their relationship, but when you read like I do, you know for a fact that this is going to end up poorly.

Anyways...

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Firepaw, you know exactly what the Thunderpath is. You've been on it. You've seen it. It smells the exact same. It has cars going on it. Why say, "is this the Thunderpath?" WHAT ELSE SMELLS LIKE THE THUNDERPATH, FIREPAW?

As they start crossing the Thunderpath, I have two issues. Firstly, why didn't they just all go together? Wouldn't that have been safer than just going one at a time? Or at the very least, pairing cats up? Put Ravenpaw with Bluestar, and Firepaw and Graypaw with Tigerclaw. That way, the kids have an adult to help them (God knows Ravenpaw could use it), and it won't take up as much time.

Secondly, why would a Twoleg just randomly decide to try and hit Firepaw? I don't know about you, but I'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would want to hurt a kitten, much less deliberately run one over. This doesn't even help the story at all; it's just a random moment that doesn't go anywhere. I also find it hard to believe that a simple jump backwards would have hurt Firepaw's claws. Cat claws are harder than that.

Isn't it a little weird that Firepaw couldn't see the cave entrance until it got darker? Isn't that kind of...the opposite thing that should happen?

As they reach Mothermouth, Bluestar has Tigerclaw and Firepaw stay with her, while Graypaw and Ravenpaw stay outside. That's a little weird, right? Why not have the other warrior stay guard, especially considering that he's pretty tough and can easily warn everyone if there's trouble? In fact, this would be a great time to help out Ravenpaw - bring him in the cave with Firepaw, and educate him some about his ancestors and how they're always watching him, so he doesn't need to be scared all the time. And, hey, he of all cats would probably require the most advice right now.

I like how the Moonstone just explodes with light, and not, say, gradually becomes brighter and brighter, because the moon moves slowly. And I don't think that it's because the hole giving the light is tiny, because I doubt it would keep the light on the rock for more than a few minutes.

Also, why does Tigerclaw book it? Do we get an explanation for that later? I assume that he just freaks out and worries that StarClan can see his sinfulness, but they should be able to see it everywhere.

It's actually pretty neat that Firepaw stays awake and just watches the room grow dark until Bluestar wakes up. But, oh no! There's something bad going on! They need to return to camp pronto!

Up next: Chapter Sixteen.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby mistywater » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:04 am

I can sense a reference or allusion on the screenshot...

But hey, that was fun to read. Especially the interaction with Lion and Gray [Grey, in my case]. I just noticed something about Spottedleaf's description in the allegiances. She is a 'distinctively spotted tortoiseshell' or something like that. Seriously, those are called distinct tortoiseshells. Kids know more about cats than Hunter does. Can't wait till next chapter, with the random rat attack and all.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby The Lion Queen » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:03 am

[I'm typing this while on the 3DS]

Symbolic Dreams Of Symboligy seem to play a pretty big role in this series.

Oopsie, even more spoilers! Oh well, the dialoge here is completely obvious.

Besides, it's not like Lionheart was very interesting*.

Man, Erin Hunter is REALLY inconsistent about cats smelling things. One second Firepaw can't smell his friend sneaking up on him, the next second he can smell a random rogue and know that she's angry. You should start counting all the times that Erin Hunter contradicts themselves when it comes to cats smelling things**'

Okay, this complaint is probably kind of late, but I really have to wonder why in the *bleep* Bluestar made TIGERSTAR Ravenpaw's mentor. Shouldn't she have picked someone who was less aggresive?

Oh wait, this was written by Erin Hunter. Moving on!.

TBH If I were Bluestar, I would have made Tigerstar stay outside. Like you said, he's the warrior.

*and by "very interesting" i mean "interesting at all"

**then again, erin hunter is always contradicting themselves.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby I r o n. » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:23 am

I remember in a book, Erin made a huge mistake.. well.. In my mind..

"Cloudtail wiggled his hind-quartres." O.O I laughed inside then face-palmed my self. Maybe saying, "kneeded the ground" or something related to that would have been more suitable. I guess they didn't notice.

*whisper whisper* sometimes I think they don't even have editors..
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Comettail76 » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:24 am

Maybe Firepaw asked if it was a Thunderpath because although he knew what it was, he didn't know the clan name of it and wasn't sure of what they meant by a "Thunderpath"? It did say a "familiar wide, gray path", implying that he recognized it and knew them from twolegplace.
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