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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Rain_ » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:06 pm

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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby sweet tooth » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:09 pm

;;Scar wrote:
Aquamarine Abyss. wrote:
hqmary wrote:Yet another blunder by Erin Hunter!
Is it wrong that I want to try a fresh-kill pie now?


Huge hospital bill is huge. You'll need a few tapeworm killing pills, parasite removal surgeries, and more!

Only $19.95!
Plus shipping and handling


Call_ Me _Unique wrote:But for a limited time!
With still shipping and handling!

And when you buy one, you get another free!
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:25 pm

Heck, it's been such a long time since I've actually posted what the thread's about...well, I have time now! Apologies for the length and effort (or, the lack of either).

Chapter Seven

Deadfoot is awesome and sensible. He responds to Barkface's hysterical ravings by immediately pointing out that the sign might not be directed at them, since every other Clan would be able to see it. Tallstar does hop in and practically notes that it'll rain soon, so they should get going, but Deadfoot's the first to react.

You know, I really do wish they had switched perspectives between Clans, specifically so that we could know more about characters like Deadfoot. In fact, if they had finished up the Tigerclaw arc - or at least part of it - in the first book, that would have left plenty of room for a myriad of different characters from other Clans, or even outside of them. It's a shame that they forced us into one small Clan without any real sense of culture to it, which I'll get into eventually, but for right now let's stick to the story.

Tallstar sends Fireheart and Graystripe home, promising that WindClan won't forget ThunderClan's assistance. And, believe me, they don't for the entire first arc. Remember when Tallstar was practically in love with Firestar for as long as he lived just for doing this one thing? And, come to think of it, wasn't he in love with a ginger tom called Jake? Who happened to be Firestar's father? I highly doubt that he's just grateful to a young, "handsome" ginger tom, given that he highly complimented his name and appearance earlier.

...He's got a type, that's all I'm saying.

Anyway, Tallstar sends two cats to go with the ThunderClan warriors so they can get to Fourtrees safely. The four celebrate their arrival home with a rabbit - I'm surprised that they would hunt and share a meal with strangers, but given the circumstances, I won't complain.

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Jeez, Hunter, that's just as obvious as Lionheart's final conversation with Graystripe - even more obvious! I'm not even sure if I should comment any more on it, other than to laugh at you and at these idiots. It doesn't matter how tired you are - do the smart thing and go through Fourtrees! In fact, that's actually a much faster route than into RiverClan territory!

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Fireheart straight up narrates/says the following lines:

'Could RiverClan really object if they passed through their territory? It wasn’t as if they were going to steal prey.'
"We’ll only be in RiverClan territory for a blink. I can’t see us meeting any trouble."
'“We won’t meet anyone!” Fireheart had convinced himself and was determined to convince Deadfoot too.'


Either Fireheart is immensely genre-blind, or he's been reading the script. I'm really not sure which is which anymore.

As they're trekking into stranger territory, a patrol attacks them. Who's surprised? But, bizarrely enough, a ThunderClan patrol appears to save the day. However, some trouble occurs.

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Really? Really, dude?

Sandpaw, I know you're alpha b* around here, but for God's sake, he just saved your life. There's no way you could have possibly missed that you were about to fall into a friggen' gorge. You started to slip into it. Why not look around for a second to see why he grabbed you if you're that oblivious?

Jeez. I can't believe he falls for you later.

Anyway, the fight gets interrupted when a RiverClan cat falls into the water and presumably drowns. Graystripe was trying to pull him out, but the cat fell anyway. Good job, Fireheart! Your stupidity cost a life. How many people have you nearly or actually gotten killed since you started in this Clan? The number's gunna rack up soon, I'm sure.

Up next: Chapter Eight.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby agathokakologic » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:28 pm

;;Scar wrote:And when you buy one, you get another free!
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Rain_ » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:52 am

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Oh dear.
Just look what I found..
Please don't tell me Erin tried painting Blackstar's paws and trying to fool us that white cats have black paws..
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby agathokakologic » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:26 am

SincerelyUnique wrote:
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Oh dear.
Just look what I found..
Please don't tell me Erin tried painting Blackstar's paws and trying to fool us that white cats have black paws..


What's the chance of a white cat with amber eyes with black paws and six toes on one paw? Who lives for over eight years in the wild eating rats.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby sweet tooth » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:09 am

Aquamarine Abyss. wrote:
SincerelyUnique wrote:
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Oh dear.
Just look what I found..
Please don't tell me Erin tried painting Blackstar's paws and trying to fool us that white cats have black paws..


What's the chance of a white cat with amber eyes with black paws and six toes on one paw? Who lives for over eight years in the wild eating rats.

And was a rouge at one point?
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Atheon » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:14 am

SincerelyUnique wrote:
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Oh dear.
Just look what I found..
Please don't tell me Erin tried painting Blackstar's paws and trying to fool us that white cats have black paws..

That's probably photoshop...
Plus, pointed cats don't have black paws. Dear god help us.
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby Arcaii » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:38 am

Warriors Musings: Language, Part One


Having recently re-read Watership Down, I've been struck with the mood to talk about something that Hunter never really considered, which is a feline language. The author of Watership Down, Richard Adams, has a preface in the book in which he discusses how he came to develop the rabbits' world and behavior. There's several points he made that I think should be noted here:

  • Animals live differently than us, and might have words for something that we don't.
  • The language of an animal should sound like something that they both would and could speak.
  • Research is absolutely everything. (This is a given, but it needs to be said.)

After finishing the book, I sat down for a while and considered, as I usually do, how Warriors could have been so much better if it was written like that. Of course, being a complete rip-off isn't exactly recommended, but there were plenty of things lacking in the series. Language is one of the biggest missed opportunities. The cats would not have to speak the language all the time - in fact, you'd only have to make up certain words as you went along. But the inclusion of a language helps feed a lot into the worldbuilding.

"Well," I hear you say. "You clearly think you could do it better. How about you tell us what you'd do with a language, if you can even come up with one at all?"

I'll get right on that, but we need to talk about a few things first before we can come up with words and phrases.


Phonology


Believe it or not, wild cats aren't very vocal creatures. Domestic cats are noisy because, as we do with most domestic animals, we keep them in a baby state of mind. Kittens are naturally very vocal, and our pets stay this way as they grow. Cats have a good range of noises they're capable of making, but most stick to one or two different tones.

A feral cat would grow out of the need for vocalization once they could catch their own meals, because in the wild, too much noise means your prey gets away, and for an animal whose main skill is stealth, that's a big problem. They tend to communicate through body language, with the occasional purr, hiss and growl. Meowing and catcalling are saved for breeding season.

So let's say there's two parts to the feline language - vocal, and physical. Vocal would likely be pretty flat in tone, with M, R, and S being the most common letters. Heavily-vowled words would probably be saved for words and terms relating to breeding and kittens (since that's when cats would be noisiest). Physical would carry the tone of what the cat is saying - for example, if a cat says "RiverClan eats fish" with contempt, they might curl their tail or raise their head haughtily. If they're saying it more conversationally or explaining something, they might not use much body language at all, and say it flatly.

So M's, R's, S's for "grown-up" talk. Each letter might be used for something more than the others. How would that break down?

M's - regarding food/hunting, and other things that would require stealth.
S's and R's - regarding fighting/harsh words. Vowels would also be in more use here.
E's, A's, and I's - regarding kittens and young cats. The word for kittypets might have these vowels, since kittypets are noisy and soft, like kittens.
O's - regarding breeding and cats in heat. If you've heard caterwauling from a cat in heat, you'll know that's the perfect letter.
Th's, T's and P's - mostly used in words that have no real weight to them and can be used in conversation - prepositions, conjunctions, articles, etc. It's likely that these words and letters would be saved for times of relaxation.

As for the physical part of the language, that gives words their tones? That's already done for us. A good guide on cats will give you their body language and what each motion means, so all you'd have to do when writing is to note which part of their body they're moving.

This should give us plenty to work with so far.

Part 2 coming soon!
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Re: Let's Read: Warrior Cats Series

Postby SingTheRain » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:40 am

I remember someone used that image for a role play I was a part of once and I cringed. It's so completely photoshopped that it hurts me inside (heres the original)

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