"The" Rares List Guide - Do not ask about new UR's!

[~ t r o u b l e ~]

alrighty I am gonna start up the holly chat again because it seems to have died

personally I would say its own tier under the nons or on non level maybe
I'm always hesitant to put a UR on non level, as I have expressed in the past. its just that quick go to pet that people use to get URs every year. but if thats what people are paying a lot, then its consistent. but again, it does encourage nons for URs right away.
I also do not believe that the Holly has high enough demand to be above the nons. which I think most people seem to agree with already.
I see it go for a bit less than non worth also, but its also not low enough in demand to go to flower pot level. which is why I say right below nons.

[Coleslaw]

When we traded for a UR Holly we paid a GWJ+ ( http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... vNo8Zjctyw ) and that was a few days after the release.
from what I've seen the demand isn't as crazy as it was back when we were trading for it, so with that in mind I honestly think it shouldn't even be above the gwj. I don't think the UR flowerpot should be over the GWJ either, but that's another discussion.
BUT it seems there are quite a few trades for nons, so it seems to contradict my original thoughts of the demand being down.
Just my two cents.

[PierceTheVeil<3]

I think that the UR bee and UR pot should be = to each other. That's just my thought.

[lucky333123]

UR bee?

Please look in the search first, as well as the list. The UR Bee has already been added to the main list.

[SabrinaB]

I think that the UR bee and UR pot should be = to each other. That's just my thought.

the UR bee actually has really good demand from what ive seen and is quite rare, while the flower is almost impossible to trade off fairly.

Having thoughts about where it should be placed is not enough to move/place a pet, actual trades are needed to suppot the theory

[~ t r o u b l e ~]

guys please stop with the spammy chat
we are not discussing anything but the UR holly at this point. please pay attention to the current conversations before starting new ones. its really hard to get the discussions going without having people suggesting and posting random things

does anyone have more trades or more suggestions with the ur holly? I would love to see it placed before the new URs are released

[Kyar]

I'm really not sure where to put the holly. From what it looks like I think it's fair to say the range is about GWJ-non. And I still don't feel like it should go with the nons. That seems too high to me. I've been getting some interest in the holly (especially since the advent calendar started) but since a lot of people are just asking "What do you want?" I'm not sure exactly what they have in mind for value.

Has anyone seen the holly swap for the flower?
I'm starting to think that flower level might be the a good place for it. It seems to do better than the GWJ by at least a little bit and since the exact gap between the GWJ and flower hasn't been reasoned out yet I think it would make more sense to keep them together than to create another far-from-solid gap. I'm not sure if they swap or not though.
If not with the flower I'd say probably just above it but below the nons? We did mention that the gap between the flower and GWJ is probably gonna be fairly small so that would leave a little space to create another tier. That would put them slightly below the nons but it would probably bump them up a fair amount over the GWJ. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[Lady Sif]

Guys, please stop just making statements based off what other people are saying. You need to have trades or references or at the very least decent reasons for why you think something should go where.

That being said I've looked at the past trades and I think that the UR Holly should be placed on it's own tier above the Flower Pot but below the nons.

I don't think the demand of it is low enough to go with the UR Flower pot and I don't think they would swap well. If we put it on the non tier it will encourage the idea behind "new URs are worth a non". Hence a tier between those seems like the right place for it.

@Kyar
I have seen it go for a flower pot + something else, but I'm having trouble finding the trades again.

I went to review the FTT and I've noticed that people have been given advice on it with the assumption it's going to be flower/GWJ so that may be influencing things here.

[DaDwarf]

I think placing it with the flower right now is a good place. We can always move it.

I dont want to put it with the nons as i had a harddd time trying to swap it, everybody wanted me to add to my side.

[~ t r o u b l e ~]

I would be happy with it on flower level honestly
it seems like a logically place, its demand and trades fit well from what I can tell.
And as D said its not like its permanent ^^