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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Kittytalia » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:31 pm

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby XxDragonScalesxX » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:32 pm

Iceysmoothie wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83926670&userid=820034&signature=NOi7wmvCodR0rVho8hbVuA

is this new one fair? tysm :D

This would be unfair to the other person as their side adds up to about 3 2014 rares and yours is only worth 1 2014 rare and 1 2017 rare. While the tess dragons do have better demand compared to hamsters and butterfly wolves it would still be rather unfair to the other side.
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby CaptainSpank » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:41 pm

Iceysmoothie wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83926670&userid=820034&signature=NOi7wmvCodR0rVho8hbVuA

is this new one fair? tysm :D


Yep..., this one is nice, and for both Sides...

Your Halloween 2017 Dog is a "True" Rare, worth about (a bit more) their Green Xmas UC Wingy-Dog... (Is UC, but just-just..., was a Free Pet...)

And the 7 other UC's on their Side are OK for your Rare St Patrick Dragon, especially the Xmas 2013 UC Lion makes it good-good...!

Looks fine to me...! :D
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Spiritthesly » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:45 pm

Im awful at understanding lists-- how is this trade?
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby CaptainSpank » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:49 pm

XxDragonScalesxX wrote:
Iceysmoothie wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83926670&userid=820034&signature=NOi7wmvCodR0rVho8hbVuA

is this new one fair? tysm :D

This would be unfair to the other person as their side adds up to about 3 2014 rares and yours is only worth 1 2014 rare and 1 2017 rare. While the tess dragons do have better demand compared to hamsters and butterfly wolves it would still be rather unfair to the other side.


I don't agree at all with your Analysis @XxDragonScalesxX, Rarity-wise if the Trade is Unfair it is (very-slightly) to Poster, but not the other way around..., but because 7 Pets for the Dragon, I find it very OK for both Sides...
(I would accept it if I was on any of the 2 Sides...)
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby faygeleh » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:53 pm

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Iceysmoothie wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83926670&userid=820034&signature=NOi7wmvCodR0rVho8hbVuA

is this new one fair? tysm :D


Yep..., this one is nice, and for both Sides...

Your Halloween 2017 Dog is a "True" Rare, worth about (a bit more) their Green Xmas UC Wingy-Dog... (Is UC, but just-just..., was a Free Pet...)

And the 7 other UC's on their Side are OK for your Rare St Patrick Dragon, especially the Xmas 2013 UC Lion makes it good-good...!

Looks fine to me...! :D


Please try to avoid giving out misinformation, it can cause some confusion in smaller trades like this. this trade was unfair to them (the person who sent the trade), but good overpay to the person who received it.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "true rare" ? almost every rare from events (summer, halloween, christmas, etc) are gained through trading in tokens, which aren't technically free but still arent incredibly hard to get. (edit: ok, they are free, but you have to wait at least 20 minutes for each new banner, collect the tokens, trade them in, yadda yadda, i get it) they're still just regular rares, and should be valued as regular rares. most people go by the 1-year rule, meaning an uncommon from the year before is fair for a rare of the current year, so in this case a 2016 uncommon would be fair for a 2017 rare. their 2015 uncommon is slight overpay, theyre both casual event dogs, the purple isn't anything special-- especially as a recent rare. most people are willing to trade their recent rares for older uncommons and vice versa.

as for the rest of the trade, i would say the 1-year rule somewhat still applies, but the lion and the dragon are only a few months apart. slightly outside of the 3-month rule, but at first glance, most people would still value the lion as a '13 uncommon and the dragon as a '14 rare. if you dont care about the tiny technicalities of dates, the lion alone would be fair for the dragon, as dragons and lions both have good demand. even if you do care about the technicalities, the other uncommons easily make up the gap, even with lower demand of rodents.

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XxDragonScalesxX wrote:
Iceysmoothie wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83926670&userid=820034&signature=NOi7wmvCodR0rVho8hbVuA

is this new one fair? tysm :D

This would be unfair to the other person as their side adds up to about 3 2014 rares and yours is only worth 1 2014 rare and 1 2017 rare. While the tess dragons do have better demand compared to hamsters and butterfly wolves it would still be rather unfair to the other side.


I don't agree at all with your Analysis @XxDragonScalesxX, Rarity-wise if the Trade is Unfair it is (very-slightly) to Poster, but not the other way around..., but because 7 Pets for the Dragon, I find it very OK for both Sides...
(I would accept it if I was on any of the 2 Sides...)


it's not unfair to them rarity wise, not even slightly. No matter how you calculate it, going by the most common trade rules of cs, its unfair to the other person. if you dont like the 1-year rule or the 3-month-gap, then most people use the 2:1 ratio. 2 of those '15 uncommons = 1 '14 uncommon, two '14 uncommons = 1 '14 rare. not including demand, just the pps caterpillers would technically be fair rarity wise.

i see the trade was already accepted, so as long as both op and their partner are happy with it, its not a big deal. but other people use this thread for reference, so i thought it'd probably be good to clear up miscommunications here ^^ ;
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Oscurio » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:55 pm

Faerin wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83923766&userid=711966&signature=0TYd0z7cFskM4rGpuTepAw

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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby nobxdy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:58 pm

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Faerin wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83923766&userid=711966&signature=0TYd0z7cFskM4rGpuTepAw

Fair?


Is this fair rarity and demand wise?


Unfair to them
Your side = 1.5 '09 rares
Their side = over 5 '09 rares
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Re: The "Is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby faygeleh » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:01 pm

Faerin wrote:
Faerin wrote:https://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=83923766&userid=711966&signature=0TYd0z7cFskM4rGpuTepAw

Fair?


Is this fair rarity and demand wise?


Rarity wise, it seems pretty unfair to them. A 2016 store pet is worth a late '09 rare, and a '17 is worth an early '10 rare. Technically, just one of those horses and any 1 of those dogs would be fair, as the staff pets are most likely just going to be common or vc so it wouldnt add much rarity wise. Demand wise, horses and ponies can be extremely hard to trade off, and bwolves arent all that much better. However, Malk collectors will often overpay for those pets (even lower demand pets, like fish) and all things considered, it's still pretty large overpay rarity wise. The angel cheetah has some decent demand, but this is still a good offer. Demand is relative and its up to you on how you value the demand of both your side and theirs, but this isn't a bad trade by any means.
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