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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Fantelle » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:36 am

    Hey ~~
    Is there like a list that says how much is between each gap?
    For example between Balloon and Rainbow Mane.
    Like a complete list of all the gaps? Because it seems to be
    different for every gap, the higher up you go the bigger the
    gaps get.. thanks for all the answers!
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Celozon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:53 am

Tawk wrote:
    Hey ~~
    Is there like a list that says how much is between each gap?
    For example between Balloon and Rainbow Mane.
    Like a complete list of all the gaps? Because it seems to be
    different for every gap, the higher up you go the bigger the
    gaps get.. thanks for all the answers!


There is not currently a list like that, but it is being worked on and will be posted at some point in the future, I'm not sure how soon though. Komi is one of the main people working on it and reviewing it and she's often very busy. It is being worked on though :3
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Fantelle » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:24 am

noleah wrote:
Tawk wrote:
    Hey ~~
    Is there like a list that says how much is between each gap?
    For example between Balloon and Rainbow Mane.
    Like a complete list of all the gaps? Because it seems to be
    different for every gap, the higher up you go the bigger the
    gaps get.. thanks for all the answers!


There is not currently a list like that, but it is being worked on and will be posted at some point in the future, I'm not sure how soon though. Komi is one of the main people working on it and reviewing it and she's often very busy. It is being worked on though :3


    Oh, I'm glad they're making something like that.
    Thanks for the information, Noleah! <3
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby 5404 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:09 am

Tawk wrote:
noleah wrote:
Tawk wrote:
    Hey ~~
    Is there like a list that says how much is between each gap?
    For example between Balloon and Rainbow Mane.
    Like a complete list of all the gaps? Because it seems to be
    different for every gap, the higher up you go the bigger the
    gaps get.. thanks for all the answers!


There is not currently a list like that, but it is being worked on and will be posted at some point in the future, I'm not sure how soon though. Komi is one of the main people working on it and reviewing it and she's often very busy. It is being worked on though :3


    Oh, I'm glad they're making something like that.
    Thanks for the information, Noleah! <3

If that could help you: DaDwarf some time ago posted which Advents are low/mid/high and added to that which gaps are smaller than '09 rare. So it's kind of gap guide for Advents - viewtopic.php?p=54278528#p54278528
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Hekomi » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:21 am

This guide will focus on the gaps between each tier of the rares list and how to trade up and how pets are valued in comparison to each other. In order for this break down to make sense, you MUST read the entire post. Otherwise you may get confused. Only the first pet on a certain tier will be shown, to save space. Some pets will be used instead of a generic term such as "mid-September".

Key:
Non-dog = non swirl/tag/coon NOT non-jewel
Sorbet = any colour
Dark Leopard = High September
Red Rose = Mid September
Grinner = Low September
CEG = Clear Eyed Galaxy

Sunjewel - 5 non-dogs or a moonswirl & a non-dog
Moonswirl - 4 non-dogs or a dogtag & a non-dog
UR B-Wolf - 3 non-dogs & a purple toxic
Plains Zebra - 3 non-dogs & Blue Toxic
Dogtag - 3 non-dogs
UR Cat - 2 non-dogs & any sorbet
UR Banana - 2 non-dogs and a gearback tribal
July PPS - 2 non-dogs & a red toxic
Coontail - 2 non-dogs & a balloon dog
Nonjewel - 1 non-dog & a Red Rose
Non-coon - 3 sorbets [any colour]
Growing White July - 2 sorbets & Dark Leopard
Nick Unicorn - 2 sorbets & Red Rose
UR Mint Horse - 2 sorbets & grinner
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Spotted Tribal - Purple Toxic & Line Tribal
Purple Toxic - CEG & Balloon Dog
Clear Eyed Galaxy - Blue Toxic & Balloon Dog
Blue Toxic - Sorbet & Red Rose
Any Sorbet - UR Butterbun & Dark Leopard
Joker - we need to clarify whether we will be valuing the joker by demand or its true value
UR Butterbun - Red Toxic & Red Rose PPS
Red Toxic - 09 UR Dog & Red X PPS
09 UR Dog - Yellow/Green Toxic & Skeleton PPS
Green Toxic - UR Grapes & Blue Rose
UR Grapes - Non-balloon & Red Rose
Non-Balloon - Line Tribal & Red Rose
Line Tribal - Rainbow Mane & Floppy Pink September
Rainbow Mane - Balloon dog & scarf PPS
Pink Balloon - Speckled Rat & Red Rose or 3 Blue Roses
Speckled Rats - UR Apple & Red Rose
UR Purple Horse - Skeleton PPS & Scarf PPS
Skeleton PPS - Rose PPS & Timber Wolf Advent
Rose PPS - Red X PPS & Peppermint Eared Advent
Red X PPS - Grey Dragon & Grinner or 10 advent dogs



Obviously I'll edit the front part to make more sense, but I started with just above the big gap since that's the most complete I had time to format the second part of the main list, so now it's updated.. Please let me know if the way I broke it down doesn't make any sense. Also let me know if you disagree with any of these values! I had DD look over a few but we actually don't see eye to eye ourselves with some rarities, so please nit pick it. :) Some pets will be moved around during the next update, so some of these values might be a bit moot, but for now let me know what you think.

Also please keep in mind that the 'big gap' just means that the gaps between pets is vastly larger than before, not that you have to pay like five of what's below to equal what's above. I think I really did a bad job of explaining that and it's made it difficult for some people and I apologise.

Once I fiddle with these I want to have a thorough discussion about the location of certain pets, mainly the Joker and BA, and whether we want to place them where they're on the list based on what people are paying now, or leave them as is. Obviously there are pros and cons to both, but keep in mind I'd like to discuss it, but not yet. One thing at a time! cx
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby KittyKat~ » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:50 am

There are definitely some mixed things that is confusing for me
from the information I have previously gathered about the main list from others...

but anyways I just wanted to mention that I do not see the sunback mentioned^^
I don't know if it was a mistake or if it was purposely not listed in that list
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Hekomi » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:53 am

KittyKat♥ wrote:There are definitely some mixed things that is confusing for me
from the information I have previously gathered about the main list from others...

but anyways I just wanted to mention that I do not see the sunback mentioned^^
I don't know if it was a mistake or if it was purposely not listed in that list

I didn't put the sunback because I intend to move it onto the same line as the coontail. :)

What confuses you? If we talk it out we might be able to figure out what to change, move, fix, etc.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Azuri » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:55 am

this clears soooo much up

thank you Hekomi~<3
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby Hekomi » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:57 am

Blizzardclaw wrote:this clears soooo much up

thank you Hekomi~<3

No problem! It'll help once I get the other lists up too, but I think it will only work if people sit down and read through it. Since so many values are subjective on each other, it's useless to know that a sunjewel is worth 5 nons and not knowing what a non it worth. xD

Someone on tumblr suggested adding point levels to the rares list, which might be another great way of breaking it down for more mathematical users. I'm not 100% sure how to implement it [I'm sooooo not math oriented] so if you have any ideas, let me know! Also if you think it might not work exactly also let me know. xD
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide [READ ALL RULES]

Postby dogs » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:05 am

I think you should clarify what a gap is, for the newbies. :3
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