January Discussion Thread

[Wavesong]

im gonna say koi.


i think so far we have tancho and doitsu.

According to this chart, they would be:



Tancho --- Tancho Sanke --- Sanke

Ha the names match :ID

BTW: I love the Shusui, the Showa and the Kumonryu! Another species of animal I can stalk for their genetics yess

The last looks more like Goromo or Daitsu to me.

I researched a bit about the colors. Tancho means a red circle on the koi's head, so the first two are really Tancho and Tancho Sanke

Now the third... (most common, second to grow)
This one was harder, because some information contradicted, but I found this site, which explains it simply, and this marvel, which contains all the koi pattern standards :3

Here were the theories: this rat was either doitsu, goromo, showa or sanke

Goromo is red patches with blue-tipped scales, so that's not it.

Showa?

The sanke koi, also called Taisho Sanshoku, has white skin with a pattern of black and red blotches or spots.

The showa koi pattern is much like the sanke one. However, the background color is black and the fish has red and white patterns.

The rat is predominantly white, so it's not showa. Now remains sanke and doitsu, the two hardest to tell apart

The previous quote about the sanke concords. But the pictures of doitsu, too...

Reading this gave me the answer:

A good showa must have all three colors on its head.

I looked more closely at the head. Oh look! There's a Tancho marking! Does that mean there's two tancho sankes??

A round patch of red on the head is considered nice. If this red patch is the only red marking on the sanke, then the koi is called a 'tancho sanke', a highly-prized koi variety among the Japanese since it looks like their national bird. If there are other red markings on the body of the koi, then the round head patch makes it a 'maruten' sanke.

And there was a picture. The doitsu is actually a 'Doitsu Sanke', which is very similar to the Maruten, but with a jagged/not round spot on the head.

Bingooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo




Tancho --- Tancho Sanke --- Maruten Sanke


And I don't even have time to lose ewe This is just more interesting than my essays, s'all....

[Tammanae]

Imma wait until they grow, because while I agree with the first two, the last one does not look like a Sanke to me, it looks more like the Doitsu. However, they may just look pretty in Koi colors. Wouldn't be the first time that they give a little twist to existing variations of animals.

[Wavesong]

Imma wait until they grow, because while I agree with the first two, the last one does not look like a Sanke to me, it looks more like the Doitsu. However, they may just look pretty in Koi colors. Wouldn't be the first time that they give a little twist to existing variations of animals.

You didn't read and just looked at the image, didn't you xD

Ok, fine, Images:



A Doitsu is a type of Sanke lol...

But the current rat is a Maruten Sanke, because it has the Tancho (crown on head pattern)

[June Bug]

Imma wait until they grow, because while I agree with the first two, the last one does not look like a Sanke to me, it looks more like the Doitsu. However, they may just look pretty in Koi colors. Wouldn't be the first time that they give a little twist to existing variations of animals.

You didn't read and just looked at the image, didn't you xD

Ok, fine, Images:



A Doitsu is a type of Sanke lol...

But the current rat is a Maruten Sanke, because it has the Tancho (crown on head pattern)

Or she's just insure because the patterns on the rats are so faint and hard to see. =/ I read it all and I'm stuck between a few as well. There's no way to know for sure untill they're grown or the artist confirms.
There are quite a few that have orange crown-like splotches and similar black-orange patterns aside from the Maruten Sanke. Untill the pattern is fully visible, I'd be careful about insisting you're right and others didn't read.

[Wavesong]

Oh I'm sorry Dx
I am just fully basing myself on the fact that the crown is perfectly round Dx

I love debating...

[DemonChild]

I agree that it is too light to tell yet. We should just wait until the artist confirms. I love the koi colors though.

[Tammanae]

Imma wait until they grow, because while I agree with the first two, the last one does not look like a Sanke to me, it looks more like the Doitsu. However, they may just look pretty in Koi colors. Wouldn't be the first time that they give a little twist to existing variations of animals.

You didn't read and just looked at the image, didn't you xD

Ok, fine, Images:



A Doitsu is a type of Sanke lol...

But the current rat is a Maruten Sanke, because it has the Tancho (crown on head pattern)

Or she's just insure because the patterns on the rats are so faint and hard to see. =/ I read it all and I'm stuck between a few as well. There's no way to know for sure untill they're grown or the artist confirms.
There are quite a few that have orange crown-like splotches and similar black-orange patterns aside from the Maruten Sanke. Untill the pattern is fully visible, I'd be careful about insisting you're right and others didn't read.

Pretty much. After all, the Siamese litter ended up having brown and yellow eyes, now didn't they? After them, I pretty much like seeing them grow up before I entirely base myself on having them have to be one particular outcome.

Thumbs up to you though Wavesong. Being offended and called dumb in a disguised way by a person who covers it up as 'loving debates' really makes my day.

[EnochianGhost]

Now, now, guys. Let's not bring out the harsh words and sarcasm. >_>

[Tess]

guys move on it's not a big deal

[dannydevito]

i love the new pets