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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Solloby » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:31 pm

Caovich wrote:
That was a mistake I made when I made my thread..

Would it be possible if everyone had one specific pet to delete? That would help.. right?

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I did a test (.0001% chance of working) I deleted 170 CNLFoo Dogs. If they do update every month we can see if it made any type of effect


Just FYI, 170 is nothing. You won't make a dent into an uncommon unless they are already close to rare without deleting a few thousand at the very least.

To give you an idea of numbers, there are less than 12000 PPS Lion Cubs from the Medieval Faire, and many users did not acquire them. They are still uncommon. Therefore to convert an uncommon pet to rare, you must delete enough that there are less than 12000 of them left (what the number you are looking for is, I don't know, and it is an ever shifting number).

I would estimate around 20,000 of each uncommon pet is released each month, but that is a wild guess, it could be way off. It is hard because you have to consider number you can adopt, rarity within the litter etc.

So unless you are prepared to collect thousands of the same pet (and it must be a recent 2012 pet, any pet older than that will have too many on accounts that aren't active; also it must be unpopular otherwise small batches of hoarders will be holding too many away from the trade market) then you are likely wasting your time if you want to actually see a rarity change. You will also need to be pet rich in order to collect thousands of a single pet. The more recent and less popular it is, the less you will have to pay for it though, so if you are serious about turning an uncommon pet rare, you are going to want to pick a recent spider or rat you don't think people liked as much and will need to sink some rares into quantity auctions.

During the later stages of your purchasing, the pet's value will increase as less are in the market and more people are wanting them in order to trade them to you for a profit later on, or to save for after the deletion if people realise what you are up to.


On a side note, turning a common pet uncommon isn't worth bothering with because they turn uncommon so easily that your contribution to that rarity change would not be worth acknowledging, as there is too high a chance that they would have turned uncommon anyway. There are just so many users on the site that commons aren't that common any more, and I don't even remember the last time we had a very common.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby benny5678 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:04 pm

Solloby wrote:
Caovich wrote:
That was a mistake I made when I made my thread..

Would it be possible if everyone had one specific pet to delete? That would help.. right?

@benny
I did a test (.0001% chance of working) I deleted 170 CNLFoo Dogs. If they do update every month we can see if it made any type of effect


Just FYI, 170 is nothing. You won't make a dent into an uncommon unless they are already close to rare without deleting a few thousand at the very least.

To give you an idea of numbers, there are less than 12000 PPS Lion Cubs from the Medieval Faire, and many users did not acquire them. They are still uncommon. Therefore to convert an uncommon pet to rare, you must delete enough that there are less than 12000 of them left (what the number you are looking for is, I don't know, and it is an ever shifting number).

I would estimate around 20,000 of each uncommon pet is released each month, but that is a wild guess, it could be way off. It is hard because you have to consider number you can adopt, rarity within the litter etc.

So unless you are prepared to collect thousands of the same pet (and it must be a recent 2012 pet, any pet older than that will have too many on accounts that aren't active; also it must be unpopular otherwise small batches of hoarders will be holding too many away from the trade market) then you are likely wasting your time if you want to actually see a rarity change. You will also need to be pet rich in order to collect thousands of a single pet. The more recent and less popular it is, the less you will have to pay for it though, so if you are serious about turning an uncommon pet rare, you are going to want to pick a recent spider or rat you don't think people liked as much and will need to sink some rares into quantity auctions.

During the later stages of your purchasing, the pet's value will increase as less are in the market and more people are wanting them in order to trade them to you for a profit later on, or to save for after the deletion if people realise what you are up to.


On a side note, turning a common pet uncommon isn't worth bothering with because they turn uncommon so easily that your contribution to that rarity change would not be worth acknowledging, as there is too high a chance that they would have turned uncommon anyway. There are just so many users on the site that commons aren't that common any more, and I don't even remember the last time we had a very common.


this really helped. well i know that it will cost alot but i have non-coon and blue sorbert for a quantity auction and tons of rares. i know it may seem worthless but right now im collecting now a certain pet but a litter of rats. i almost have 1,000. even if i dont delete them it would go up in demand and i would like to collect atleast 10,000 for now.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Solloby » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:49 pm

^ Yes that's an important thing to note - it makes no difference to their trade value if you delete or keep them, because value is determined by supply, ie. how many are available to trade. Whether they exist in your hoard or don't exist at all, they aren't for trade, so you can drive up their value either way.

Just don't forget to adjust your numbers when dealing with litters though. If you are collecting a litter, you have to remember to divide your total by the number of outcomes. So if you had 80 rats, that sounds like a good start, but if there are 4 outcomes you really only have around 20 of each outcome (assuming they are similar rarity), which isn't much at all. But it would be easier to collect a whole litter I'd imagine, and can make for a nicer looking hoard.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Cuspid » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:59 am

The quantity auction, solloby, I like it. I think it's. Great way to get some.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Mydear » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:38 am

    I apologize if this has been said before, but what if some one were to collect all of one type of pet, and delete them all? Would that make it extinct, or would they release more? Its impossible to do, but what would happen if it did?
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Cuspid » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:50 am

It would go extinct, but it's not likley it will happen.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby ~Paradox~ » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:51 am

it wouldnt go extent because it could come back as a 12 advert
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby quitting99983 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:51 am

I did, and I am thinking about my Malk Dragon hoard ^^
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Cuspid » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:54 am

But It might not.
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Re: We could make any pet R, VR, or even OMGSR

Postby Shian » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:54 pm

There is no way to get rid of every of one pet on CS. From the pound to the Dec 18th release, any severe shortage of pets is taken care of ;)
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