How Do You Really Trade? (New Poll!)

[Harlowe]

When you trade, how many uncommons do you think are equal to a rare? (assume same date/species)
Expanding on my vote:
I picked 6-10.

I almost never accept uncommons for a rare of any year.
In most cases, uncommons will be uncommon for years before moving up in rarity. I often prefer the value of the rare, since it's almost a guaranteed overpay accept if I'm hunting for a missed outcome or something I really want and I offer the rare vs an uncommon.

That being said, I will sometimes trade my rares for UC & below, but only for pets I perceive have value that outranks their rarity, are event or archive-monitored pets with a good chance of going rare soon in the future, and/or are a popular seller in my intentionally overpriced C$ values (for which I get 18-25C$ per one uncommon, so I am essentially buying a store pet which I trade for older rares, so the one uncommon becomes 1-3 rares). The chance occasion I trade down- I expect 6-10 of similar species and year (or older).

If someone is trading down their rares for 6-10 uncommons or fewer, sure, I'll make an offer. Like I said, I prefer to use rares to overpay or get outcomes I want, so I'll trade up where I can.

Observation from my trades: I definitely don't see a lot of folks trading their rares for 2-3 uncommons, BUT I get a lot of trades asking me to trade my rare for 2-3 of their uncommons. Seems to me people are cool with getting a rare for 2-3 uncommons, but not so cool about letting them go for that price. And I'm the same way.

[musicgurl333]

Apologies. I haven’t been doing a great job lately of keeping this thread bumped and/or replying to comments. I’m probably going to change the poll soon, so I’m open to requests for what people would like to see asked next.

[JayJay]

I've noticed a lot of people who have 2 UC = 1 Rare in their trade rules don't actually have any rares for trade. Every time I see that I try to trade for their rares but they never have any available. So I'm not convinced that there are actually people out there trading like this? If there are then where do I find them lol.

I actually do trade 1 rare for 2 uncommons of the same year but I try to take species into consideration as well. Like 2 uncommon rats won't equal a rare dog... tho I am fairly loose on the rule and do accept what I consider over pay for some pets, depending on how much I like that pet or how hard it is to find. *and yes I have rares for trade.

[lotusmoon9]

Hi! im super new so im not all that clear on trading....but thought id share the viewpoint of a noob lol, what i generally follow is:
Since its super difficult for me to get hold of rares, unless i get a double i would never trade it (chances of me getting a double rare = 0.00000001% lol)
for recent year pets like 2021-2018 i am usually fine with 1:1 unless its a very pretty pet/unique design (in my personal opinion only lol)
for older years i try to follow roughly 1:2
I always send suggestions unless its a super clear 1 for 1 trade with wl and doubles on both ends, i usually add wl pets on both sides as options and ask ppl to edit it to their satisfaction.
I do wl to wl trades only for the most part
The few rares i did get hold off were thanks to- generous ppl, scrambling to send a trade as soon as someone put up a new free adoptions post (loads of resending cancelled trades lol) and in some cases ppl wanting older uncommons in exchange for 2020 rares (coz i loved the flower horses and dogs)
i place more emphasis on pets that appeal to me personally rather than strictly on their rarity

i recently also realized how much i enjoy gifting, i dont have many doubles since im new but the few cases i do gift pets i have enjoyed it....i realized this mainly thanks to one of the users here....we were editing the trade trying to balance it out but then they just suddenly cancelled it and instead gifted me all the pets i had asked for directly....i was so happy that i directly gifted all the pets they had asked for too lol took off all the pressure of calculating rarities since multiple pets were involved and both sides were happy hehe

[musicgurl333]

I finally decided to revive this thread! Here are the results from the previous poll. Disclaimer: The poll was conducted about a year ago, so results could be different now. Maybe at some point I'll run it again to see if anything has changed, but there are other polls that I'm more interested in running first.

Past Poll Results

When you trade, how many uncommons do you think are equal to a rare? (Poll run 2020-2021)

2 65 votes 25%
3 68 votes 26%
4 67 votes 26%
5 19 votes 7%
6-10 13 votes 5%
More than 10. 3 votes 1%
I don’t know. 24 votes 9%

[Concept]

Oh man this thread has been a while since it resurged. It's an interesting thread that I think I have a somewhat unique view on since I'm a member hailing from the first days XD I actually stayed WELL away from thoughts of trading until the automatic rarities and the wishlists were implemented! There were days before that that neither existed, I was not brave enough to step foot in that lol. I don't fully remember if trading existed before rarities but I know it existed before wishlists *taps chin*...

The 2 for 1 rule has always been something I never quite understood in my own head. I just don't value pets like that, and I try to offer wishlist only, one for one as close to month or year as possible at every opportunity. Every person is different. Everyone is looking for different things, so what's worth it to one person isn't to another. I've always tried hard to stick to wishlist and communicate if I'm unsure, and there were times in the old days when I just started trading when I got confused because a pet had a lower rarity but was super in demand so what I thought was a fair trade ended up being refused. I used to be more free with my trades, too, but nowadays I look more carefully at what things are worth to me, since now a lot of my oldest trade pets are from literally ten years ago or more. I remember getting them. I remember each one and how easy they were for my friends to get. It's a bit surreal to know that it happened so long ago.

In the end I have to balance the thought that they're really just pixels on a website with the knowledge that I gotta keep from being taken advantage of (or accidentally taking advantage of someone else!) even with that lol. Each new month that comes out brings so much new to the table, too. Some pets might very well sit with me for several more years before they find someone that wants them. Some pets we have now will be rare or very rare in the future! That's exciting, too o.o I actually have several pets that started out common 8 years ago that are now rare. The trading environment is ever changing!

[musicgurl333]

I’m REALLY surprised by how many people said they value store pets as a ‘12 rare or below. I mean, it’s not a lot of people, but it’s more than I expected. I can’t help but feel like they’re probably people who want store pets, rather than people trading store pets. Lol. But if I’m wrong and people are trading store pets for those prices, please send some trades my way!!

[musicgurl333]

Bump.

[Crim]

The 2 for 1 rule has always been something I never quite understood in my own head. I just don't value pets like that, and I try to offer wishlist only, one for one as close to month or year as possible at every opportunity. Every person is different. Everyone is looking for different things, so what's worth it to one person isn't to another. I've always tried hard to stick to wishlist and communicate if I'm unsure

I agree that everyone is different, and typically I try to offer wishlist for wishlist. I think I typically end up overpaying because my wishlist is relatively small and I'd rather trade my quality pets for pets I actually want.

The 1:2 rule sounds nice on paper, but I haven't seen many people following it. I definitely agree with previous users that 1 rare > 2 uncommons, and I don't think the 1:2 rule holds up for age gaps either. For example:
- If I offered multiple 2017-or-earlier UC for a single recent rare - sometimes people would take me up on it. Typically only a few 2013-or-earlier UC for a 2022-2018 rare.
- I NEVER got anyone to give me 1:2 rares by year - i.e. my one 2017 Rare for their six 2020 Rares? Never happened. People would only accept close to 1:1 ratios where I felt like I was trading down.

[musicgurl333]

The 2 for 1 rule has always been something I never quite understood in my own head. I just don't value pets like that, and I try to offer wishlist only, one for one as close to month or year as possible at every opportunity. Every person is different. Everyone is looking for different things, so what's worth it to one person isn't to another. I've always tried hard to stick to wishlist and communicate if I'm unsure

I agree that everyone is different, and typically I try to offer wishlist for wishlist. I think I typically end up overpaying because my wishlist is relatively small and I'd rather trade my quality pets for pets I actually want.

The 1:2 rule sounds nice on paper, but I haven't seen many people following it. I definitely agree with previous users that 1 rare > 2 uncommons, and I don't think the 1:2 rule holds up for age gaps either. For example:
- If I offered multiple 2017-or-earlier UC for a single recent rare - sometimes people would take me up on it. Typically only a few 2013-or-earlier UC for a 2022-2018 rare.
- I NEVER got anyone to give me 1:2 rares by year - i.e. my one 2017 Rare for their six 2020 Rares? Never happened. People would only accept close to 1:1 ratios where I felt like I was trading down.

I definitely agree with all of this. I'm curious, does anyone have a "rule" that they use instead of the 2:1 rule? I don't have a specific rule, so I just see what I think looks/feels reasonable. I have considered seeing if I can figure out a more consistent guideline to use.