CS Rarity List [WIP] - status update on page 75

[SabrinaB]

I believe I saw a post fromm Tess somewhere, where she mentioned re-releases won't effect the rarity, this includes the UR zebras that can be adopted among the horses

Here is the post about the zebras: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2218793&p=69122876&hilit=rarity+releases#p69122876
Can't find the other one at this moment

[Fizzlebee]

This looks like a great idea, and I'm glad we can use proper data to help form a rarity list. I've been following the discussion on the new Rares List for a while now, and this seems to be the best way to both include the community and come up with solid data. ^^

I have one small question. People tend to like to dress up their valuable/dream pets. What would happen if one couldn't tell the identity of the pet due to items? Is there a way to tell what pet it is? Would there be a "unknown" label in the spreadsheet for such things, and would that affect how large our sample size needs to be to obtain reasonably accurate results?

Just a small concern. I apologize if this was already accounted for in Solloby's calculations; it's been a few years since my last Stats course. I would also be happy to volunteer to help with the project. c:

[Sinbreaker]

This looks like a great idea, and I'm glad we can use proper data to help form a rarity list. I've been following the discussion on the new Rares List for a while now, and this seems to be the best way to both include the community and come up with solid data. ^^

I have one small question. People tend to like to dress up their valuable/dream pets. What would happen if one couldn't tell the identity of the pet due to items? Is there a way to tell what pet it is? Would there be a "unknown" label in the spreadsheet for such things, and would that affect how large our sample size needs to be to obtain reasonably accurate results?

Just a small concern. I apologize if this was already accounted for in Solloby's calculations; it's been a few years since my last Stats course. I would also be happy to volunteer to help with the project. c:

I think the best way to approach that (if the user is no longer active) is to put unknown. Usually you can tell the identity of a pet through a dress up, though for smaller things like rats I can see how they can become completely covered.
If the user is active, a simple PM to ask wouldn't hurt.

[DaDwarf]

Theres a way to make a pet show without items, its an add on you add to the img url. Something like &noitems haha i can look that up so that wouldnt be an issue!

[kee;]

Ive been following the rares list discussion and hoping to help somehow, so I would love to help with this! I'll have time starting later today since my spring semester is over today. If someone wouldn't mind pming me though to tell me how to actually go about counting pet ids, that would be great. I have no idea how it works. XD

-kee

[nickjr]

@sol I have a BEG and red sorbet both from the end of August. Like August 25 or so (easy to find in my pets: everyone is sorted by where they are in the archives, with the exception of malk betas)

@anyone Anyone know if the galaxies and sorbets were taken down on a different date from the rest of the August 2008 pets?

If they were taken down at the same time, could we use random sampling for that?

Re: counting rereleases
So I feel like pets are rereleased with ratios such that they reach the "original" ratio, rather than being rereleased with their original ratios. But I have no evidence for this and I don't know if it would significantly affect the data for rereleases either way (but it would affect the data for rereleases! I just don't know if it's significant). Maybe it would significanty affect OMGSR pet counts. Probably related to UR pet release ratios for their first years vs all years afterward? Thoughts?

Btw, &noitems=1

[FreddyCenobite]

Theres a way to make a pet show without items, its an add on you add to the img url. Something like &noitems haha i can look that up so that wouldnt be an issue!

The first Q&A answer in this shows it and how to use it for those unaware.

I have 3 original dated July pets and I think a CEG dated in August. If they're needed I'll get their IDs.

[~Misty]

I believe I saw a post fromm Tess somewhere, where she mentioned re-releases won't effect the rarity, this includes the UR zebras that can be adopted among the horses

Here is the post about the zebras: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2218793&p=69122876&hilit=rarity+releases#p69122876
Can't find the other one at this moment

Here's Lucky. He was born 3 days ago and adopted via normal horse adoptions.
Zebras were originally meant to be and still are meant to be the rarest pets in game. I think taking things down rarity wise here first would be best, get those out of the way. But maybe this could start next year... after Dec.18, if we complete it all now, everything would mess up too quickly once Dec.18 happens this year.

[Sinbreaker]

I believe I saw a post fromm Tess somewhere, where she mentioned re-releases won't effect the rarity, this includes the UR zebras that can be adopted among the horses

Here is the post about the zebras: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2218793&p=69122876&hilit=rarity+releases#p69122876
Can't find the other one at this moment

Here's Lucky. He was born 3 days ago and adopted via normal horse adoptions.
Zebras were originally meant to be and still are meant to be the rarest pets in game. I think taking things down rarity wise here first would be best, get those out of the way. But maybe this could start next year... after Dec.18, if we complete it all now, everything would mess up too quickly once Dec.18 happens this year.

I don't think this should wait till next year. The project will be forgotten and people will get frustrated that it was just dropped.
At the rate we are going, we should start seeing some progress as summer is just around the corner.

At the moment, we're just looking to get a realistic draft done, not change the list all at once. There is a lot of work to be done, it will probably, realistically, take many months. So to delay it wouldn't help us very much.

[nickjr]

December 18 adoptions would not mess up any data we get from before December 18. And after December 18 we would still have to do everything (whatever it is that we want to do).

Also unless I missed something that post only mentioned zebra rereleases specifically and did not mention rerelease in general lol I missed your post OTL

By "not affect rarity" does this mean not affecting current site rarity or not affecting original rarity?