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Poll 3: How would you like valuable pets to be tiered?

Poll ended at Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:15 pm

-By non value, like how the FTT does, and structured like the old list was!
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-I'd like to see a new way of sorting the list! (Comment your idea!)
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-I just want to see the results.
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44%
 
Total votes : 160

Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby Shadowflight13 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:40 pm

I'm worried this may get lost in the rest of the posts, but I have a suggestion for you! @Kittytalia

People seem a little concerned that this isn't a community guide, but is being portrayed as such, and I think renaming the thread could help this. Instead of the "CS Rares List Guide", which seems very official and something everyone can contribute to, might I suggest changing it to "Kittytalia's Pet Value List" or something like that? Then other people are free to use it, but it also isn't claiming to represent all of CS. c:

Just a thought! Best of luck to you in your endeavors, creating a rares list from scratch (without reusing the old one) is a lot of work!
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby dawnchu » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:42 pm

Shadowflight13 wrote:I'm worried this may get lost in the rest of the posts, but I have a suggestion for you! @Kittytalia

People seem a little concerned that this isn't a community guide, but is being portrayed as such, and I think renaming the thread could help this. Instead of the "CS Rares List Guide", which seems very official and something everyone can contribute to, might I suggest changing it to "Kittytalia's Pet Value List" or something like that? Then other people are free to use it, but it also isn't claiming to represent all of CS. c:

Just a thought! Best of luck to you in your endeavors, creating a rares list from scratch (without reusing the old one) is a lot of work!


I support this suggestion! i don't want to be confined to one list such as this one (which, right now, is seeming.. extremely official and cs-wide) so this would be great c:
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby bark » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:45 pm

Honestly, I don't think the PPS dragon cat should be included. Or for any store pets at all for this guide, since store pets are another thing on their own when it comes to finding the median demand. A guide of non-store pets only however would work more better. ^^

I'm just not really into the whole idea of the Shima longtail of being in the guide. No matter what it can go for, at the end of the day; it's only a rare. ^^; Plus adding it to this guide will cause unneeded greedy demand when it's already so hard to get.

Anyways, good luck on the guide!
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby In The Darke » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:49 pm

Guys just remember, you can choose to not use any of the multiple lists currently being made, just the same as you choose your trade partners and can just not trade with people who onto agree with your values 😊

I do that currently, any pets I deem worth more than the old list I just be especially picky with, but for me that's TD WL pets over overpay or Higher demand offers. We all have our own sales and goals and have the freedom to do as we choose.

Lists are more to help give an idea of worth to people who want that sort of influence in their trading style. Like some uses pay 2 nons for a Raven and many user, myself included, actually value it as the lowest worth '10 Store, I'm not going to assign a value since I just don't actively trade for anything I don't currently want, but just an example 😊
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby Kittytalia » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:50 pm

utau0223 wrote:just dropping in here with my two cents-

this is a very ambitious idea you have going on! unfortunately, i don't think it will work out.
based on the information you posted on the first page of the thread, it seems like this new list will include pets with demand.
demand is ever-changing, so naturally, if you want to continue this thread and provide accurate values for many years to come (assuming that this list will have formed and kept up within the community), you have to edit the list whenever a pet gains or loses demand. doesn't this defeat the purpose of a list? a list is supposed to be mainly set in stone, a base guideline for these *newer players* look at to find the values of their pets. if a list incorporates demand, it will ruin everything and renders it unreliable.

another thing i find troublesome about this is the fact that,, it's a list.
the old list was retired because people didn't want to be confined to one way of trading. this list will create hugely varying values of pets and probably ruin the trading economy even more.


To answer your worries: the goal of this list isn't to be set in stone like the old one. It will be changed all the time and reworked as time goes on. It may not be a guide that works the same as the the old one did, but I'm hoping that it will be a good avenue to find what pets are worth accurately at any time c:

As for ruining the economy, I sure hope it doesn't. It's just a hopefully helpful guide <3



@Shadowflight13
I can agree with that. I know a name change is certainly in order. @Seasonal had a good point a while ago, so I may go along the lines of "The Current CS Market," or something indicating current market values.

@In The Darke
I definitely agree about watching out for re-releases. I may add a footnote about that c:
(I appreciate your latest post, too! <3)

@K-9-Dog
I appreciate your input! I've got to give it more thought. Definitely look out for some polls on those topics down the road c:
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby dawnchu » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:30 pm

Kittytalia wrote:To answer your worries: the goal of this list isn't to be set in stone like the old one. It will be changed all the time and reworked as time goes on. It may not be a guide that works the same as the the old one did, but I'm hoping that it will be a good avenue to find what pets are worth accurately at any time c:

As for ruining the economy, I sure hope it doesn't. It's just a hopefully helpful guide <3


thank you! this clears up the issue i had with this thread c:
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby endermiss » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:50 pm

I suggest giving store pets their own sections. They truly shouldn’t be situated with other pets for the simple reason that they can’t get rereleased. (This is my opinion)
Within this section there could be fluctuations because of demand (raven and dragoncat pps come to mind) but they should be separated and catergorized separately.

A little note to Kitty: even if I don’t agree fully with this list you are doing something very difficult and I respect you for it!! I wish you the best of luck in creating a successful guide to help users.
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby gallifrey falls. » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:29 pm

    It's good the goal of this isn't to set demand in stone or be regarded as law, but that isn't how it's going to go. The old list was only a guide too and we saw how that turned out.

    Now with that one having existing and this one being created, people will latch onto this one as the new law and we'll be right back where we started. I don't think this will very helpful to the trading community at all.

    Just my thoughts, I know you said you're making this no matter what, so best of luck 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby SabrinaB » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:54 pm

Shadowflight13 wrote:I'm worried this may get lost in the rest of the posts, but I have a suggestion for you! @Kittytalia

People seem a little concerned that this isn't a community guide, but is being portrayed as such, and I think renaming the thread could help this. Instead of the "CS Rares List Guide", which seems very official and something everyone can contribute to, might I suggest changing it to "Kittytalia's Pet Value List" or something like that? Then other people are free to use it, but it also isn't claiming to represent all of CS. c:

Just a thought! Best of luck to you in your endeavors, creating a rares list from scratch (without reusing the old one) is a lot of work!

I agree with this. This really feels like a 1member list, not a community list.
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Re: CS Rares List Guide [Vote in Poll 3!]

Postby ThunderCedar » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:00 pm

SabrinaB wrote:
Shadowflight13 wrote:I'm worried this may get lost in the rest of the posts, but I have a suggestion for you! @Kittytalia

People seem a little concerned that this isn't a community guide, but is being portrayed as such, and I think renaming the thread could help this. Instead of the "CS Rares List Guide", which seems very official and something everyone can contribute to, might I suggest changing it to "Kittytalia's Pet Value List" or something like that? Then other people are free to use it, but it also isn't claiming to represent all of CS. c:

Just a thought! Best of luck to you in your endeavors, creating a rares list from scratch (without reusing the old one) is a lot of work!

I agree with this. This really feels like a 1member list, not a community list.

I also second this. I think the name "CS Rares List Guide" is a bit misleading.
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