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[Meoauniaea]

I actually prefer the OMGSR/OMGSC.
It hails back to the lingo at the time the site was created, a time of ZOMG and Coolio. It feels disingenuous to change it when omg is considered common vernacular and has been for decades. The religion of a few users should not dictate things for the site as a whole. If anything, I feel that changing it could pave the way for a lot more religious-based changes, such as removing butterfly wolves because "they are too close to angels" or dragons because "they are a sign of Satan".
I just really don't feel comfortable pandering to a select few users when a phrase is, and has been, in common vernacular for so long.

[Alina]

I think someone suggested WOW so rare / WOW so common before and like that much much more than something like legendary. It also looks similar to the OMG. In case that the OMG might get another name I personally think this would be the best exchange.

[Maligator]

I actually prefer the OMGSR/OMGSC.
It hails back to the lingo at the time the site was created, a time of ZOMG and Coolio. It feels disingenuous to change it when omg is considered common vernacular and has been for decades. The religion of a few users should not dictate things for the site as a whole. If anything, I feel that changing it could pave the way for a lot more religious-based changes, such as removing butterfly wolves because "they are too close to angels" or dragons because "they are a sign of Satan".
I just really don't feel comfortable pandering to a select few users when a phrase is, and has been, in common vernacular for so long.

Truth be told, I like the OMG ones as well! (: it just feels chill and not too serious, which I honestly really like? I feel like the lightheartedness of the silly, outdated label is, for lack of better words, comforting. However, if it is changed, I don’t really see how changing something as simple as the rarity lingo could pave a way to major site changes like removing entire species. If people don’t agree with a certain pet species they can just not collect them.

I am a Christian woman, but OMG can stand for many other things. Personally, I still see it as “Oh my God”, and that doesn’t bother me too much, but others can make the change in their mind if they want. There’s actually a lot of varying opinions in each religion. Because of such varying opinions and stances in any religious community, some things will be offensive to some people and some things not. Also, “God” doesn’t only refer to the Christian God. Other religions use that term as well, so assuming that the site is going to cater to only the Christian religion in terms of making changes is not really the way we should be looking at it in my opinion. (:

I understand why the rarity tag would be changed, as just like I said before, a lot of religions use the term “God”. As far as dragons being “A sign of satan”, dragons are symbols of power and authority in certain Asian beliefs, so that opinion is not quite as universal as the “Misuse” of the term “God”.

[almondkitty]

I still favour keeping all names as is and only changing out extremely.
I do also still prefer super, but I acknowledge the confusion it can have with very so I'm not against discarding that option. extra is my second favorite alternative, but mighty is a very good one! I think using either of those would work well.

changing all the names is so so crazy to me because imagine leaving after the summer event & coming back for halloween with four new rarities and all the rarity names have changed. i think the best option is to keep everything as-is, add the four new rarities, give everyone time to adjust & then see if we need to change names. doing it all at once is a recipe for disaster imo

[conarcoin]

after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!

Name wise I support this

I really like Panne's edit of my original rarity stars mockup, so I sat down and made a version with the colors proposed by Fellefan! I wasn't liking how the "shiny" bar was looking (it just looked a lot like the SR bar tbh), but thought the rainbow OMGSR was cute and hopefully not too similar to the custom bar...? Who knows.

Light mode ------ Dark mode

Really like these stars, though I think the omg so rare would need a different colour (which might need to shift the other colours a bit as well). I prefer the stars with lighter backgrounds over those with dark that someone else proposed.




Just throwing this here as example for bars with dimension of the originals.

First has more muted colours in yellow and cyan as well as a lighter pink that I think distinguishes better (I prefer the first)

Design wise I support these two proposals. Also TBH I don't think being similar to custom should be a concern when custom pets are so infrequent anyways and if they did have a rarity WOULD class as OMGSR due to being 1 of a kind

[Bellarocks123a]

I know that the list is "discontinued", but I'm very curious as to how the rarity changes would affect the discontinued rares list pets/Horror's list pets. It seems to me like the "extremely rare" or whatever name is decided for it would fall to just these pets, and make trading a lot easier for new folks who weren't around when the old list was active and haven't had time to study list pets. My concern is if some of these pets still live around rare or VR only, it's just going to increase the demand even more so for the "extremely rare" ones. Example: "oh, the earth elemental malk cat went up to extremely rare while the rest of the litter stayed VR. I'm gonna charge double the amount of C$ for this one than I'm charging for the rest of the litter now". They should all still be roughly the same due to demand, but from a first glance people are going to see an opportunity to exploit the change for even more profit. Especially with the current C$ inflation problems, I just feel like it can knock the whole system off balance.

I know there's no way to control how users trade and what guides they use for pet rarity, but I think it would be a great idea to re-implement a "new" rares list when the rarity change comes out. Or maybe issue users a warning about waiting a week or so to trade as everyone becomes more comfortable with the values. It seems like Horror is already prepared for the rarity changes to roll out (since the top post of Horror's list has a note about the rarity change to come) but I feel like having an official list put out by CS would make the change a whole lot easier.

[Wyrm on a string]

I agree keeping the rarity names the same would be best for clarity’s sake. For the possible new ones though, I adore the idea of a “super duper” rare or common. It fits well next to omg so rare.

[Lex.]

I actually prefer the OMGSR/OMGSC.
It hails back to the lingo at the time the site was created, a time of ZOMG and Coolio. It feels disingenuous to change it when omg is considered common vernacular and has been for decades. The religion of a few users should not dictate things for the site as a whole. If anything, I feel that changing it could pave the way for a lot more religious-based changes, such as removing butterfly wolves because "they are too close to angels" or dragons because "they are a sign of Satan".
I just really don't feel comfortable pandering to a select few users when a phrase is, and has been, in common vernacular for so long.

Truth be told, I like the OMG ones as well! (: it just feels chill and not too serious, which I honestly really like? I feel like the lightheartedness of the silly, outdated label is, for lack of better words, comforting. However, if it is changed, I don’t really see how changing something as simple as the rarity lingo could pave a way to major site changes like removing entire species. If people don’t agree with a certain pet species they can just not collect them.

I am a Christian woman, but OMG can stand for many other things. Personally, I still see it as “Oh my God”, and that doesn’t bother me too much, but others can make the change in their mind if they want. There’s actually a lot of varying opinions in each religion. Because of such varying opinions and stances in any religious community, some things will be offensive to some people and some things not. Also, “God” doesn’t only refer to the Christian God. Other religions use that term as well, so assuming that the site is going to cater to only the Christian religion in terms of making changes is not really the way we should be looking at it in my opinion. (:

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Have to agree, the religion of a few people shouldn't change CS in any way. Like Maligator said, it could open the door for more un-needed changes to be made. If you don't like the term "OMG", then just ignore it and pretend it means something else to you. "Oh my goodness"/"oh my gosh" work just as well.

As for changes to the list, I don't think that the values will change much aside from the information given with the new rarity bar. C$ wise, I plan to create a guide after the heat of the rarity update subsides a bit, to try and help it. C$ itself is already inflated, so there isn't anything I can do to change that, so the prices might still be "high".

To add on to rarity names while I'm here, I quite like Rare/Very Rare/Super Rare/OMGSR! It's better than 'super duper' which feels. redundant and looks better than 'extremely'.

[onion]

r ppl rly complaining about omgsc/sr 0_0 cmon guys....

anyway im not sure if i prefer super duper or extremely. i think extremely, because people can just abbreviate it to ext rare or smth like that! tho i suppose sd rare works too. idk. just throwing out some options!! :3

[Meoauniaea]

To add, to my previous statement, I read OMG as "Oh My Gods", Gods plural, rather than god, singular. It's a preference. But I genuinely think removing it removes the remnants of the times that the site came from, and that is disheartening.

I also like the rarity bars and colors in the top set of LostInTheEcho's post linked to above.