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Which path should we take to improve the pet rarity system?

Poll ended at Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:06 pm

Keep the current categories, but spread pets out more across the categories we have
1120
22%
Add a new "very uncommon" rarity category
804
16%
Add four new rarity categories
3144
62%
 
Total votes : 5068

Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Lacuna » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:09 pm

    I'm not going to hunt the whole thread but here are all the words I remember:

    - Very (already in use)
    - Extremely (proposed - what most of the discussion is about changing)

    - Super / Super Duper (also replacing very if using both)
    - Very Very (I don't know if anyone said this but it's an option I suppose)
    - Extra
    - Incredibly
    - Hyper
    - Mega
    - Ultra (concern raised about UR-unreleased and UR-ultra rare as well as UC-ultra common and UC-uncommon)

    - Legendary (instead of OMG, partially for people who OMG potentially meaning "god" instead of "gosh" or "goodness" is a problem for)
    - rename all tiers:
    Feather <3 wrote:Proposed naming-------------Whimsical naming-----------------------Whimsical unique*
    *with unique starting letters for all one-word labels

    OMG So Common ------------ Universal -------------------------------- Pervasive
    Extremely Common ---------- Abundant -------------------------------- Abundant
    Very Common --------------- Very Common ---------------------------- Ordinary
    Common -------------------- Common --------------------------------- Common
    Uncommon ------------------ Uncommon ------------------------------ Uncommon
    Very Uncommon --------------- Scarce ----------------------------------- Scarce
    Extremely Uncommon ---------- Elusive ----------------------------------- Elusive
    Rare -------------------------- Rare ------------------------------------ Rare
    Very Rare -------------------- Very Rare -------------------------------- Fabled
    Extremely Rare --------------- Legendary ------------------------------- Legendary
    OMG So Rare ---------------- Mythical --------------------------------- Mythical

    - use + and - instead of words (C-, C, C+, UC-, UC, UC+, R-, R, R+) or (C, C+, C++, UC, UC+, UC++, R, R+, R++)
    - number the rarities 1-11 or 0-10

    Other random ones I don't think I've seen anyone post:
    - Luxury/Luxe/Grand (on the uncommon/rare side only maybe? personally I'd prefer the same for all)
    - Wildly
    - Distinctly
    - Exceptional/Exceptionally
    - Mighty
    - Supremely
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Fellefan » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:18 pm

I still favour keeping all names as is and only changing out extremely.
I do also still prefer super, but I acknowledge the confusion it can have with very so I'm not against discarding that option. extra is my second favorite alternative, but mighty is a very good one! I think using either of those would work well.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby rengoku. » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:43 pm

after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Realtamoon » Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:17 pm

Kesidi wrote:
Zeroness wrote:
Zeroness wrote:I have 3 suggestions for the colors (made with the thought for them to be easily distinguishable):

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I also used these colors with the rarity bars suggested by LostInTheEcho on page 58:

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Oh gosh, I really dislike pallette #3, a- th colours look super close and b- there are dark tones at the beginning and and but also at the middle??

Anyway my bus is here, I will elaborate later (sorry)



Yes I agree, the 3rd pallet doesn't have a clear enough distinction between the 3 darker colors, & almost look identical to me.
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby AislingNyht » Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:09 pm

Lacuna wrote:
    I'm not going to hunt the whole thread but here are all the words I remember:

    - Very (already in use)
    - Extremely (proposed - what most of the discussion is about changing)

    - Super / Super Duper (also replacing very if using both)
    - Very Very (I don't know if anyone said this but it's an option I suppose)
    - Extra
    - Incredibly
    - Hyper
    - Mega
    - Ultra (concern raised about UR-unreleased and UR-ultra rare as well as UC-ultra common and UC-uncommon)

    - Legendary (instead of OMG, partially for people who OMG potentially meaning "god" instead of "gosh" or "goodness" is a problem for)
    - rename all tiers:
    Feather <3 wrote:Proposed naming-------------Whimsical naming-----------------------Whimsical unique*
    *with unique starting letters for all one-word labels

    OMG So Common ------------ Universal -------------------------------- Pervasive
    Extremely Common ---------- Abundant -------------------------------- Abundant
    Very Common --------------- Very Common ---------------------------- Ordinary
    Common -------------------- Common --------------------------------- Common
    Uncommon ------------------ Uncommon ------------------------------ Uncommon
    Very Uncommon --------------- Scarce ----------------------------------- Scarce
    Extremely Uncommon ---------- Elusive ----------------------------------- Elusive
    Rare -------------------------- Rare ------------------------------------ Rare
    Very Rare -------------------- Very Rare -------------------------------- Fabled
    Extremely Rare --------------- Legendary ------------------------------- Legendary
    OMG So Rare ---------------- Mythical --------------------------------- Mythical

    - use + and - instead of words (C-, C, C+, UC-, UC, UC+, R-, R, R+) or (C, C+, C++, UC, UC+, UC++, R, R+, R++)
    - number the rarities 1-11 or 0-10

    Other random ones I don't think I've seen anyone post:
    - Luxury/Luxe/Grand (on the uncommon/rare side only maybe? personally I'd prefer the same for all)
    - Wildly
    - Distinctly
    - Exceptional/Exceptionally
    - Mighty
    - Supremely




Really appreciate this being gathered up Lacuna. I'm definitely of the mind that Extremely is too confusing and awkward, and the OMG label being changed in the process would be great in my opinion if not for the potential religious connotations then just because it feels very.....old internet? It stands out a lot among the rest of the labels and has bothered me for a while in all honesty.

I definitely think that keeping the symmetry and limiting confusion should be important. The whimsical options aren't appealing to me since all the disparate words make it difficult to immediately know their relation to each other and could be seen as vague especially if your first language isn't English. With that, I feel like the best options to replace extremely would be Incredibly or Exceptionally (Mightily or Remarkably could work as well); with Hyper or Mega replacing OMG. I could only see Super/Super Duper working if we keep the OMG label since all three have a sort of childish feel that makes them fit together, but I'm not sure if that's really what we're going for with these changes.

Mega Common / Hyper Common
Incredibly Common / Exceptionally Common
Very Common
Common
Uncommon
Very Uncommon
Incredibly Uncommon / Exceptionally Uncommon
Rare
Very Rare
Incredibly Rare / Exceptionally Rare
Mega Rare / Hyper Rare
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby piepinkpony » Sat Aug 19, 2023 10:04 pm

rengoku. wrote:
after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!



This I can definitely get behind!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby odin » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:23 pm

rengoku. wrote:
after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!


I voted for 4 new rarities and I like these labels. :)
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Nokrashy » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:36 pm

I know more detailed rarity would make me a more secure and active trader
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby elydon118 » Sat Aug 19, 2023 11:52 pm

I've been debating and i have to agree with this. I'm an old player, and having new people try and trade me a bunch of Commons for my Rares... I definitely think that more categories will be helpful.


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Thank you for listening, we greatly appreciate it!

Personally, I like the idea of adding four new rarities. As an old player coming back, keeping up with what everything is worth can be very overwhelming, even with the helpful guides users provide. I believe having more distinct categories will help a lot when it comes to trading, especially with people who aren't experts on rarities!
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Re: We need your feedback on an update to the rarity system!

Postby Wookieinmashoo » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:05 am

rengoku. wrote:
after reviewing lacuna's very helpful post, this would be a rarity line i could get behind and see working very well.

Abundant (A) *possible replacement for OMGSC due to the 'omg' concern
Extremely Common (EC)
Very Common (VC)
Common (C)
Uncommon (UC)
Very Uncommon (VUC)
Extremely Uncommon (EUC)
Rare (R)
Very Rare (VR)
Extremely Rare (ER)
Legendary (L) *possible replacement for OMGSR due to the 'omg' concern

i'm not a fan of the whimsical names at all; i think it's too nebulous/vague, especially in light of those pointing out that this site is geared towards a younger audience who may not understand the words. i understand wanting to have unique shorthand versions for rarities, but i think there's a way to make those work while still sticking to the relatively straightforward naming conventions of our current system (which is why i provided examples of them in my list above). i feel that occam's razor applies here: the simplest option is almost always the best!


Though I don't really care what the names will be (more concerned with how the rarities themselves will function), I do like this the best out of all the ones proposed. They're simple to understand and it gets rid of the OMG part of the rarities. I always thought that was a bit weird so it would be nice to see it change for consistency.

I don't understand why changing it is so bad? If it does get changed, great, if not, then nothing changed.
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