Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[Dragonite]

It's Definately impossible, to have the lines match up almost exactly to the photo. Nope. It's impossible.

And I'm sorry, but did you just say We are not mature? THIS IS ART THEFT. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW. and we are not actually Mature by dealing with it?

I wasn't calling anyone immature

and im not saying she didn't trace, just that she didn't intend for the traces to endup on CS

How did she not intend for them to get on CS? They were offcial linearts for like 2 years.

because she forgot they were traced

[mawsoleum]

Actually you can. if you read the first post.
Imagine you have a sketchbook full of old drawings. Hundreds of them. Drawers that are full of old school papers and doodles. Only a few of those you traced. Are you really going to remember out of all of the ones you have over the years of practicing which are traced and which ones aren't?

I don't think it's possible that she did it on accident, that sounds like a cheap excuse.
"Oops, I just traced and uploaded a large amount of lines without giving them credit or anything, whoops!"

I have hundreds of drawings, and I can perfectly remember which are traced (only old ones) and which are freehand. It's not hard to tell.

[Blooming]

And just before an anti tracing mob breaks out I never said it was OK I just said she didn't mean to do it. And she was very mature about it, which some of us need to be a little bit more of.

I know you don't think it's okay to trace,
but i'm just saying don't believe everything you hear.
You don't just accidentally trace lines

Actually you can. if you read the first post.
Imagine you have a sketchbook full of old drawings. Hundreds of them. Drawers that are full of old school papers and doodles. Only a few of those you traced. Are you really going to remember out of all of the ones you have over the years of practicing which are traced and which ones aren't?

I don't think you understand what i said, and i certainly don't have a clue what you are talking about :s

[Crazychick3000]

I already gave my opinion, but I forgot to put this in there.
I feel like these horses would just not be right with Yul lines.
(Especially the Zombie Pony litter I hoard, I'd probably trade them if they had Yul lines. :s)




- This was my favorite horse litter when I joined. :'3

Also, the Dice litter would look really funny with Yul Lines. :s The Dice PPS wouldn't be as adorable.

Very, very much agreed!

[soupalicious]

Hey guys, let's just remember Chicken Smoothie's own rules on Art Theft and Tracing:
Using photo references for your artwork:
If you heavily reference your artwork from a photograph then please give credit by posting a link to the original image. The reference information should be clearly visible above or below your image.

Copying/Tracing/Modifying/Claiming ownership of other peoples art/lineart:
If you copy, trace, or edit someone else's art (without their permission) this is considered a form of art theft.
Don't pretend to have made art which was actually made by another artist.
Don't trace or freehand copy another person's art, unless you have their permission.
Don't modify or edit another person's art unless you have their permission.

While the foal lines were traced line for line, it's pretty obvious the adult lines are heavily referenced, which would require a)permission (which was not sought) or b)credit (which was not given).
The new foal lines were also traced, the horseshoe was traced, the new shetland lines were traced off her old lines, as were the new horse lines, so really it's a no-win situation for ANY of the lines. I'd love to be able to show the picture that has the horse lines (which includes the rainbow mane) matched up perfectly with the original photograph, because all Equi did was turn the photo a little and reference it at an angle.

If we want anyone to actually follow the rules of Chicken Smoothie, we should start following the rules when it comes to these lines. As much as they might be liked, we HAVE to replace these lines. It's sad, and I'm sure they will be missed, but the rules are very clear about this kind of thing. If this were any other instance of tracing- any other member who had been accused- the art would be deleted in a day and the member warned. So lets prove we treat everyone the same and replace the lines with something NOT stolen or traced.

[Calix]

because she forgot they were traced

I'd like some proof of where you heard this 'fact'. Because this is the first time I've heard this, despite reading countless boards about this incident.

[natzilla_x]

I hope this closes soon. Too many arguments

[Resin]

Whether she forgot or not, a crime is a crime. These lines must be made an example of or anyone will think that they're able to trace and steal whatever they like around here.
I've had my artwork plagiarized before. It's not a nice thing to deal with. I didn't think 'Wow, I'm honored that someone liked my art enough to steal it.' I was outraged, as I'm sure the photographers of the numerous photos would be.
Like I've stated several times, I understand that people like the old lines in an aesthetic sense, but an injustice has been done and the situation needs to be rectified.

[Dragonite]

I hope this closes soon. Too many arguments

yeah, I appreciate they gave us the chance to discuss, but most of its arguing

[nickjr]

because she forgot they were traced

I'd like some proof of where you heard this 'fact'. Because this is the first time I've heard this, despite reading countless boards about this incident.

-directs you to the quote in the first post-

Some users say that her lines were traced from photos. equimagine has a longer explanation for how they came about, which in a few words is basically that she referenced for personal use, forgot about it when re-using old personal sketches for CS purposes, and that some connections other users made between photos and her lines were coincidental. Some of her lines closely resemble photographs that she didn't have personal permission to use, which upset many users, and was part of the motivation for retiring her lines in the first place. She maintains that she never intended to use photo-copied linearts for CS and that it was a careless mistake. She did update the lines for a second round but people still mistrusted her and her horses and ponies were not very popular at the time (although apparently have more support these days).

Even if it's not true/stretching the truth, that's probably what dragonite based their statement off of. ^^;