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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
52%
NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Sunfang » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:11 am

Electrical-Guava wrote:
Okay, quick idea. I see both sides here now that some points have been made. I actually regret voting yes.

Why not try to make an option in your profile to either use the Yulynh lined re-designs or the equimagine originals? Because you have NO idea how fast the zebra, uni, and the list PPS demand will drop. Including the rainbow mane when they are on the new linearts. The zebras just seem like they belong in the lineart.

And one more thing. The designs Black Heart Always made were, actually, her own characters and one is her own horse! You would need to discuss this with any guest artists.



I also like this idea at first. I prefer the old horse lines, and would be very sad to see them go and some of my favourite pets on new lines I'm not fond of. I mean no disrespect to anyone, I just prefer the old lines. I would love the option to keep them on the old lines.

But the problem I see with this is the problem that arose on Neopets when they introduced the wearables system. It was a massive revamp, but for some pets, they gave the option for users to leave them unchanged.
Now we have a Darigan Draik and then you we have an Unconverted Darigan Draik.
The UC Darigan Draik is worth twice as much as the revamped Draik.
I'd hate to see on CS there being "UC Rainbow Mane UFT!" and have converted Rainbow Manes be worthless.
And while they're the same pet, you bring up a good point that there are going to be people who no long like them, or now value them differently.
I'd just hate to see the Neopets UC fiasco on here. I know this isn't Neopets, but it was a nightmare there when they decided to do something like this.

I voted 'no' for the revamp. I also agree with Tyr.

edit;
Though I love the new Draft lines. ^^
Very gorgeous.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby DoctorDraca » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:11 am

Yes, yes, yes. A million times yes.

Regardless of the entire history and negativity the old lines have plastered all over them, they're inconsistent and look out of place in comparison to the rest of the CS pets. Changing the lines to the newer, consistent horse poses allows for better use of items, and perhaps even more items to be created for these horses because it'll be easier for the item artists.

Plus, the designs will be re-done by a very talented artist. The horses look very spiffy in their new lines and cleaned up designs.

It's a win-win situation if you ask me.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby DarkSummerShimmer » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:11 am

I think no because the way they are now makes them look unique. why would you want to change that just for some items....
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby ratonhnhaké:ton » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:12 am

DrinaLestrange wrote:
auto&rev wrote:
i wanna point out that CS continues to grow every day, and the sort of.. history with equimagine's lines isn't the best to help reputation. i don't know about the rest of you, but i'd prefer all the designs to be on yulynh's lines to get rid of the "controversy" that's come with the old lines.

not to mention that the horses just don't look uniform, and it's difficult to dress them up when not all the items fit every one of the lines.

So you'd rather we get rid of Equi's lines all together? There's no "controversy", it's not some huge thing that will make people hate CS. And as Tyr said, it's easier to make the items fit the linearts than to change all the old horses and ponies into the new lineart.

Yes, I agree.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Sorren Fey » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:12 am

DrinaLestrange wrote:
auto&rev wrote:
i wanna point out that CS continues to grow every day, and the sort of.. history with equimagine's lines isn't the best to help reputation. i don't know about the rest of you, but i'd prefer all the designs to be on yulynh's lines to get rid of the "controversy" that's come with the old lines.

not to mention that the horses just don't look uniform, and it's difficult to dress them up when not all the items fit every one of the lines.

So you'd rather we get rid of Equi's lines all together? There's no "controversy", it's not some huge thing that will make people hate CS. And as Tyr said, it's easier to make the items fit the linearts than to change all the old horses and ponies into the new lineart.

Actually it is much easier to transfer all designs onto the same lineart instead of making all new items not for three linearts (horse, pony, draft) but for eight (3x horse, 3x pony, 2x draft). It's going to save a lot of time in future.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby Daleks&Dragonlords » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:13 am

Simba&Nala wrote:I think no because the way they are now makes them look unique. why would you want to change that just for some items....

i completely agree. why not just use the items on a pet you already have that the items fit? instead you have to change the old horses lineart?
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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby kibbleeCat » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:13 am

BreyerFreak wrote:
Tyr wrote:I voted no, for a few reasons:

1. I actually really love the "Arab" lines that Equi had, as well as the first ponies, and I really don't want to see those gone.
2. You're erasing some CS history, and its neat to see how it progressed.
3. It just seems like a discredit to Equi by removing her tag off of her lines and her designs, and placing the yulynh tag on them instead.
4. Same designs, sure, but you're also taking away the uniqueness of the original artist's designs. They lose...something when they're transferred over.
5. Items are easier to convert, and players are very creative when it comes to dressing up their pets anyway.
6. Conversion time takes away from the time that whoever is converting these can use instead to create new pets or otherwise.
7. I'm not fond of the new drafts. The face is too short, and there's something weird going on where the hind leg meets the barrel (like the body needs to be just a touch longer).

As well as some other very good points that a lot of other users are bringing up.

Tyr, I could not possibly agree with you more.
Also, in my opinion, these are our pets, and we should be the ones deciding what to do with them. This is just me.


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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby oceanblue514 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:14 am

Hekomi wrote:The Unicorns will get new lineart not sure about different poses.

You're making it sound like the lineart changes for the old horses are definitely going to happen.

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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby bubiza » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:14 am

      I'm kind of conflicted.
      I agree with what Tyr said and besides, there's much more important issues with the website (*cough*more consistent rules*cough*) that need to be sorted. Changing the horse lines bring no benefits to the site, and isn't the most urgent thing that needs to be done.

      Then again, since the old lines weren't strictly original, shall we say, then I suppose that has to be changed. After all, wouldn't want to be spreading the wrong message around about art theft, right?

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Re: Equine Transformation Project

Postby ser » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:14 am

    Why not.
    I never was a fan of Equimagine lines in the first place, & I know many people don't value them much either, they're sort of slumped down in the poor position ratties are.

    Even if it was accidental art theft I still don't really approve of it, & just using it as a photo as a reference { though i know many claimed to be even closer than thought } would be different if it was on a smaller scale. But this is on a very large, very popular website, & I think it is quite distasteful to still host these lines that were traced / referenced heavily.
    I'm sure they won't be dropped off the face of the Earth as Hekomi stated, we will still be able to remember them somewhere.
    This may not be an ideal analogy, but it's like switching from the old layout to our current layout... Except with a species lineart |D

    I'm all for it. I very much prefer the Yulynh lines, & perhaps this will help them not be so undervalued ? The draft lines are amazing too, the rainbow drafts would look great on it! Yulynh's lines helps keep them clean & consistent.
    { yes, i have a confliction unpopular opinion. take this with a grain of salt, since it's really just a jumble of what i'm thinking right now. dont quote me on anything ;p }
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