An "Advanced" board has been added to the oekaki!

[Tess]

I think this is kind of pushing the limits. I think (As someone brought up on the Tumblr Tag) that art should be categorized by style and not by "Level" or even the three groups your giving.

we are going to add some other categories soon, but I think we still need levels for the "general art" because if we tried to group by content then everything would end up flooding into "cartoon wolves"

[ppig]

I think this is kind of pushing the limits. I think (As someone brought up on the Tumblr Tag) that art should be categorized by style and not by "Level" or even the three groups your giving.

we are going to add some other categories soon, but I think we still need levels for the "general art" because if we tried to group by content then everything would end up flooding into "cartoon wolves"

Hmm, I would probably flood 'Cartoon rats' n_n

Also, you're welcome to use my art as examples for beginners Oekaki.

[Tess]

I think rather than a board higher than intermediate, we need something below it, between it and Beginners. It seems to have a large gap of requirements. Adding another board above Intermediate will be slightly degrading for some of us, especially since it may be based off the style you draw.

that's just assigning different labels to the same categories, and it doesn't really make sense to pretend our best artists are only "intermediate" while the rest of us are straggling between being "beginners" and "something less than intermediate"

[EmberWolf]

The thing I feel is the biggest problem is the way that this categorizes art when art is such a broad and subjective thing. It is not very easy to categorize it when not everyone sees art in the same way.

By making "guidelines" for art, you are more grouping by style than you are by skill level. Not everyone wants to draw in photo-realism, but their art may be of a high skill level. Because of your "guidelines" someone who may not want to draw a detailed background but has a very good subject is technically "not finished" according to your standards, not everyone's. This is a major problem when it comes to art.

There is amazing art out there that some may consider "advanced" but according to the standards, the "guidelines" you set, they aren't. Style. Not skill level. And that's not fair.

And on the subject of people feeling bad about being moved down to lower boards- even if someone says it nicely, even if no one says it in a rude way such as "this doesn't belong here", sugar-coating it doesn't change the fact that they have been told their art wasn't good enough. It didn't follow the guidelines.

[dori.]

Sounds great Tess!

I'll still be hiding away in the beginners though

[Taiger Lilly]

Ooh. This is nice!
The description for the intermediate oekaki always bothered me a bit so I'm glad it's finally changing :3

[NinthWolf]

Would it be easier rather than advanced to have a realistic category? Since I do see quite a lot of excellent realism buried and this advanced is causing some disagreement

[Tess]

we only published guidelines so people can have some idea of what we're looking for. If no-one wants to read that then we can remove it. We're not robots ticking boxes, we can tell if art fits into a higher category despite not having "clean lines" or other 'requirements', it's just the most basic description of what kind of art fits in that board. Since the dawn of the oekaki the mods have always been tasked with re-assigning art to the category we feel it best fits. Since that criteria has suddenly changed, it seems best to inform people so we don't get a ton of fresh reports on intermediate art which "should be moved to beginners" as the standard for intermediate has now dropped

[Teeze]

This seems like it will be a really great change. I can't wait.

Here are some drawings that I did that you could use as examples:
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1730154
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853667
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1448278
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1436247
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1433732
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=1034974
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=501315
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=518191
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=727182
All of these were done entirely by me, no color-ins, and most of them have characters that I own although they are all characters that were designed by someone else. Credits are in the descriptions.

[Bitley]

I don't know. The only thing I'm getting out of these categories are: bad art> goodish art> can copy photos. It's also kind of a let down to people and their art. It's not that easy to categorize your own art, especially if you don't even know where you stand. :T