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Should we update the horses & ponies from 2009-2010 so they match the current lines?

YES!
1866
52%
NO!
1200
34%
Maybe (I don't mind either way)
432
12%
Unsure (I didn't understand exactly what will be changed)
68
2%
 
Total votes : 3566

Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Atwood » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:48 am

Eclipseranch wrote:
wibeke wrote:
Star Bursts wrote:I strongly vote no for this! :/
I love the old horse lines to pieces and I spent so much trouble trading for the Buckskin PPS just because I loved the lineart. Transfering them over would just be upsetting for me. Please don't do this...please

It's been stated a few times that even if the descision is made to change the lines, it's likely that separate polls will be set up to decide the fate of "special" pets like the buckskin PPS. There's a chance that even if the normal lines are changed over, your PPS could be safe... or even get an cuter, unique lineart! (you never know)
I'm sorry that you find it upsetting, but keep in mind that there's a lot of other factors to be considered.

this kind of post from staff makes me think the decision was made before this poll so don't get it... but whatever will be will be.. I just viewed the old Malk lines that were before my time and actually really, really liked the heads on her old draft versions..no matter what still will play and collect my pets as usual

hang in there Star Burst I get it!

The idea of having a second poll with some exemptions/alterations (like PPS foals and the RBM) only came up after discussion in the thread - originally there was only going to be the one poll, but enough people seem to be stuck on those specific pets that it seems worthwhile to give them special consideration. :3
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Kida » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:49 am

Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.

It's. Art. Theft. Just because "everyone's done it" DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. It's art theft and it needs to be rid of.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby mawsoleum » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:50 am

~TGenie- wrote:
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~TGenie- wrote:Draft horses are one of my top 2 favorite breeds of horses, I have seen a lot of them in person and NONE of them look quite as extreme as the picture you posted. They were all more slender than that, I think the picture you found was just the most stocky one you could find...

Actually I literally looked up draft horses and picked something from the first row.
And if you'd like, I can give you many more examples of thick drafts. There are some that aren't as stocky, but many are. Just give me the word and I'll provide examples.

I don't need examples, I have seen enough in real life to know that the specific one you chose to show is not what most drafts look like. I even did and internet search for draft horses and there was only 2 out of I don't even know how many (and that 2 includes the one you showed) that were that muscled.

That's because most of them are Shires and Clydesdales.
Check out Brabant, Breton, Jutland, Comtois, and Ardennes horses and get back to me about the stocky thing.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby gone for good » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:50 am

Kida wrote:
Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.

It's. Art. Theft. Just because "everyone's done it" DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. It's art theft and it needs to be rid of.

look we can maby make a compromize so alot of people will be happy
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby Blooming » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:51 am

Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.

i highlighted everything wrong with this
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby DarkSummerShimmer » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:51 am

Blooming wrote:
Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.

No.
oh yeah you see i traced my drawing for a competition exactly from a real picture.
no biggy tho i just wanted to make my drawing more realistic

There is no reason to be rude. Its just my opinion. Everyone is allowed to have on but if its rude its better to keep ut to yoursekf.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby valiant. » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:51 am

~TGenie- wrote:
Articuno wrote:
~TGenie- wrote:Draft horses are one of my top 2 favorite breeds of horses, I have seen a lot of them in person and NONE of them look quite as extreme as the picture you posted. They were all more slender than that, I think the picture you found was just the most stocky one you could find...

Actually I literally looked up draft horses and picked something from the first row.
And if you'd like, I can give you many more examples of thick drafts. There are some that aren't as stocky, but many are. Just give me the word and I'll provide examples.

I don't need examples, I have seen enough in real life to know that the specific one you chose to show is not what most drafts look like. I even did and internet search for draft horses and there was only 2 out of I don't even know how many (and that 2 includes the one you showed) that were that muscled.

What type of search engine are you using? Because I searched up drafts on Google and all of the images that came up were muscled as the examples shown on this thread. I have seen drafts in real life as well and all of those images are clear examples of what drafts are/look like. None of them are exaggerated at all and the new lineart defines the actual build of the horse.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby King of Crows » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:52 am

Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.


I just wanted to point out something: Photographers are artists too. There fore, as photos are art, the copyright laws still apply to them. Sure, using a FREE USE reference image and crediting the original photographers is fine, but tracing the photos (or at least heavily referencing from the photos) and not giving proper credit to the original photographer (not to mention I don't think those photos were free-use) and publishing it counts are art theft, which is illegal. I do understand the it was just an honest mistake on Equimagine's part, and we can't blame her for that, but her mistake must still be corrected. Do you understand now..?
Reality is subjective.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby BassNectar » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:52 am

Blooming wrote:
Simba&Nala wrote:What is so wrong about traccing a picture im sure uust about everyone here has at one point or another. Thats how most people start drawing. All she did was want to make them look more realistic. Canbyou reall blame her for that. Dont get me wrong i love yul's horse i just dont think this is one that she should change.

No.
oh yeah you see i traced my drawing for a competition exactly from a real picture.
no biggy tho i just wanted to make my drawing more realistic

I really hope you guys are being sarcastic.
I want to say there's nothing wrong with tracing if you're just doing it for practice, but I don't even feel comfortable saying that.
If you're tracing a picture, why call it art?
It's theft.
You'd say the same thing if two songs sounded exactly alike.
She did not get permission from the owners of the pictures to copy their work.
She stole, that's what she did.
Typically, people think stealing is wrong.
I don't see how you guys can justify this as right. Stealing is stealing.
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Re: Equine Transformation Project - REMEMBER TO VOTE!

Postby ~TGenie- » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:52 am

That's because most of them are Shires and Clydesdales.
Check out Brabants, Jutlands, Comtois, and Ardennes horses and get back to me about the stocky thing.


I've seen those (; sorry, but I am not going to be convinced that the new and supposedly better drawing of the draft is completely accurate. To be fair I dont love the old lines either of the drafts but the new ones are out of proportion so that makes me rather have the old ones.
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