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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby /trainwreck/ » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:43 pm

Just checking, but the years pets were released has no effect on rarity whatsoever, right? So according to this, a rare is a rare regardless of the year due to having close to equal amounts of pets.
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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby .sins. » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:53 pm

/trainwreck/ wrote:Just checking, but the years pets were released has no effect on rarity whatsoever, right? So according to this, a rare is a rare regardless of the year due to having close to equal amounts of pets.


It does. A rare from '09 is nowhere close to a rare from, let's say, '13. Most go off the double for a year type thing. So an '09 would be worth 2 '10 rares, 4 '11, 6 '12, or 8 '13, depending on what the players value a pet at. If you're trading closer in years and the other player is okay with trading a '12 rare for a '13 or even '14 and you both think it is fair then that's all on you, but the older a pet is really gives it more value. So a lot of the new rare pets might take a lot of older players or trade savy players a hard time to get use to due to them not really having been worth much to start with.

If this makes any sense? I really hope it helps.
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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby Lacuna » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:00 pm

    Just going to dump some statistics here for anyone who is interested in that kind of stuff. This is a comparison between my trade groups and then also my PPS collection, which is interesting to me because PPS pets often seem more "rare" to start out with in addition to their demand. Seems like that definitely holds true.

    Trade groups:
    (note: my trade groups contain very few duplicates because I throw all the duplicates into an adoption center and pets are decently represented from all years )

    Common/Very Common before: 1285
    Uncommon before: 1051
    -> Went Rare (from uncommon): 200
    -> Went Uncommon (from common): 469
    <- Went Common (from uncommon): 184
    <- Went Very Common (from uncommon): 114
    Very Common and below after: 595
    Common after: 544
    Uncommon after: 997

    PPS collection:
    (note: complete except for 2 unknown from this month)

    OMG so Rare! before: 7
    Very Rare before: 70
    Rare before: 161
    Uncommon before: 561
    Common and below before: 360 (includes unknown)
    Unknown before: 63
    -> Went OMG so Rare! (from very rare): 1
    -> Went Very Rare (from rare): 21
    -> Went Rare (from uncommon): 79
    -> Went Uncommon (from common and below): 80
    <- Went Rare (from very rare): 2
    <- Went Uncommon (from rare): 8
    <- Went Common (from uncommon): 138
    <- Went Very Common (from uncommon): 27
    OMG so Rare! after: 8
    Very Rare after: 88
    Rare after: 214
    Uncommon after: 405
    Common after: 304
    Very Common and below: 141 (includes unknown)

    Other notes:
    Super surprised about the Easter 2011 chocolate ponies going VR - most other jumps both to rare and very rare seemed much more likely to me
    2016 staff litter is half and half VC/C right now
    Oldest uncommon trade group pet that went common: July 2015
    Oldest uncommon trade group pet that went very common: October 2017
    Oldest uncommon PPS that went common: Advent 2014 then Halloween 2015
    Oldest uncommon PPS that went very common: Advent 2017
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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby nickjr » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:00 pm

.sins. wrote:
/trainwreck/ wrote:Just checking, but the years pets were released has no effect on rarity whatsoever, right? So according to this, a rare is a rare regardless of the year due to having close to equal amounts of pets.


It does. A rare from '09 is nowhere close to a rare from, let's say, '13. Most go off the double for a year type thing. So an '09 would be worth 2 '10 rares, 4 '11, 6 '12, or 8 '13, depending on what the players value a pet at. If you're trading closer in years and the other player is okay with trading a '12 rare for a '13 or even '14 and you both think it is fair then that's all on you, but the older a pet is really gives it more value. So a lot of the new rare pets might take a lot of older players or trade savy players a hard time to get use to due to them not really having been worth much to start with.

If this makes any sense? I really hope it helps.

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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby DemureGirl » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:21 pm

The two for one rule is because if a pet is from a previous year then there will be less of them still around. Or at least, it makes them harder to get hold of
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Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

Postby Catsrock237 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:28 pm

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Postby skyline » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:30 pm

Catsrock237 wrote:
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I’m surpised to see the flower pot went up to OMGSR. Would it be moving up by any chance? I highly doubt it since it’s demand,


      absolutely! all the omgsr lists are likely moving up, but since it's on the holly tier, it may remain there, wherever they decide to move that tier, or keep it the same. lots of new tiers are going to be added due to the amount of omgsrs and misplaced lists.
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    Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

    Postby swiftheart54 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:34 pm

    Welp, there goes my chance at getting an orange cerb DX
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    Re: Big Rarity Update - read for details!

    Postby da, » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:36 pm

    time to dig thru my pets! tysm tess <3
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