Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

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I'm not sure if it's your wording or what, but it doesn't seem like we're all on the same page. It IS theft. She placed a piece of paper over a photograph, outlined the image behind, added some details, and called it her own. That is theft and that's the major issue. As I also stated before, the coloring and designs WERE her work, and therefore that's what's staying. So technically, none of her work will be done away with.

I would agree with that, but Yunlyh's signature is on the art, whilst she had nothing to do with the design. I think equimagine's name should remain with the designs.

I agree with having both names shown. I suggested it a hundred or so pages back. We would still be honoring Equimagines designs, but doing away with the shady line work.

Awesome idea. I COMPLETELY agree!

[Hekomi]

Yes, if anyone is harassing you for your opinions please report the post or PM, that shouldn't be happening.

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Yes, if anyone is harassing you for your opinions please report the post or PM, that shouldn't be happening.

What will the updated donkeys be like?

[Hekomi]

Yes, if anyone is harassing you for your opinions please report the post or PM, that shouldn't be happening.

What will the updated donkeys be like?

I'm not sure yet. ^^ Yul did edit her pony lines to look like donkeys at Christmas, but she might be making new lines. I'm not 100% sure.

[;Dark; (I quit...)]

I'm completely for this change. This website has a community of artists and has pretty strict rules on art theft. Equimagine used art theft by tracing or greatly referencing photographs to get her linearts.

Again, I do want this change to happen so Chicken Smoothie doesn't get shut down (if it gets that serious). I do really like Equi's horses and other types of Equus, but I don't think it was hers in the first place.

Even if you like one certain Equi horse, please know it says on the first post it's not just for your favorite. Plus, I find it kind of interesting seeing old designs moved onto newer ones. I also find it quite hard to believe that equimagine traced her lines above a photograph. (If she did, this is what others are saying)

Thank you for reading, and I hope some of you understand what I mean :)

~Dark

[Dragon Reine]

Yes, if anyone is harassing you for your opinions please report the post or PM, that shouldn't be happening.

What will the updated donkeys be like?

I'm not sure yet. ^^ Yul did edit her pony lines to look like donkeys at Christmas, but she might be making new lines. I'm not 100% sure.

I can't wait to see them <3
I wonder what the PPS's and RBM will look like?

[76heart]

I'm not sure if it's your wording or what, but it doesn't seem like we're all on the same page. It IS theft. She placed a piece of paper over a photograph, outlined the image behind, added some details, and called it her own. That is theft and that's the major issue. As I also stated before, the coloring and designs WERE her work, and therefore that's what's staying. So technically, none of her work will be done away with.

I would agree with that, but Yunlyh's signature is on the art, whilst she had nothing to do with the design. I think equimagine's name should remain with the designs.

I agree with having both names shown. I suggested it a hundred or so pages back. We would still be honoring Equimagines designs, but doing away with the shady line work.

I totally agree with that, it would be giving credit to Equi for the design and to Yunlyh for the line art. Maybe I would say yes if that would be the case or for the Arabians they tweaked the lines a little to make it bit more like an Arabian.

[Kida]

I would agree with that, but Yunlyh's signature is on the art, whilst she had nothing to do with the design. I think equimagine's name should remain with the designs.

I agree with having both names shown. I suggested it a hundred or so pages back. We would still be honoring Equimagines designs, but doing away with the shady line work.

I agree - it would be honoring both artists for the work they did. Yea maybe Equ' messed up with her lineart thing - but that dosn't mean her designs arn't hers. Unless proven otherwise? I think both their signatures should be placed on the edited/new designs.

Honestly, I don't think this should be done. Yunlyh's signature is on most horses because she did the LINES, not the design. Most of the horses done recently have designs done by other staff members. Also, not all of the designs done on the old horse lines were done by equimagine. If we went for the "fairness" as you're describing, there would have to be two names on every pet that's released on CS now. Who did the lines, and who did the design on it. I think it would be ridiculous and cluttered. Equi will probably still get credit for the designs in the archive, but her signature on the horses shouldn't be displayed, as the only reason Yunlyh's signature is there is because she made the lines themselves.

[ahirked]

Yes, if anyone is harassing you for your opinions please report the post or PM, that shouldn't be happening.

What will the updated donkeys be like?

I'm not sure yet. ^^ Yul did edit her pony lines to look like donkeys at Christmas, but she might be making new lines. I'm not 100% sure.

Oooh lovely! Thanks Hekomi!

[wibeke]

Personally I think it would be much more beneficial for the site to just go ahead and switch over. It's a shame that many people's feelings will be hurt, (while I dislike the equi lines, I remember being annoyed about the malk line changes because I had grown attached to the old lines) but looking at what the change would do for the site, I think it's a much more viable option. Being "pretty" doesn't count for much when art theft is involved.
At this point, I don't think the vote matters. Either CS will change the lines through the support of its members, or somewhere down the road they'll be forced to. Having traced adoptables, even retired ones, reflects very poorly on a site. CS is HUGE, yet we can't even handle blatant theft even when it's been pointed out to us? That's the impression it gives, and it's not a good one.

I can understand liking the looks of the old lines better, especially if you were unaware of the tracing, but this issue should've been decided the second it was revealed that the lines were traced. If these were just old lines that were going to be phased out because they no longer fit with CS's style, it would be different and I would probably vote to keep them, but it's not.
The lines are traced, and by supporting the traced lines you're saying that art theft is okay.

People need to put their personal feelings aside and realize that these lines go directly against the rules of CS. If they did, maybe we wouldn't have gone back and forth arguing for the past few days.
Everyone just needs to take a step back. And even if you support the change, there's absolutely no need to be nasty to eachother.