Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[dontdrinkthepoison]

I just wanna say for anyone who cares.. that I feel like there really is nothing wrong with a) voting yes because of the art theft issue or b) voting yes because you like the new lines ... which for various reasons pretty much cover why most people are voting yes.

My heart goes out to the ones voting no, though. If seems if you vote no you get bombarded with comments like
" How could you condone art theft!!!!"
"How could you not know that art theft is wrong.. where are your morals?"
"You're being selfish and not thinking right" (my fave cuz it was directed towards me) :)
"What are you blind?"
"You're not thinking CS as a whole"
"How can you possibly not see tracing?! They line up perfectly"!!


And yes.. everyone one of these comments were typed in the last couple of days. Plus more.. and they are usually followed up with two pages of "I agree" comments.. which can get very intimidating.. It doesn't help a person change their mind.. It makes them feel hurt and singled out.

To me, this is belittling someone just because they have a different opinion than you. Just because they want to keep the lines doesn't mean they are selfish, immoral, and blind.. that is ridiculous. Plus, you don't know the reason for a different opinion. Don't assume too much.


Give them the facts we know about.. and not paranoia -- "We are gonna shut down if the lineart isn't changed tomorrow"-- kind of stuff..

Let people know know about the theft issue and why you have your opinion, that's fine. But please allow others the curteousy to think for themselves.

And yes I know this is a lil bit of mini-moding and tried to resist.. but so many rules have been broken on this thread already.. I figured it wouldnt matter..

[mawsoleum]

Question, it it necessary to have the "Maybe" or "Unsure" options?
Really, the main debate here is between yes or no, and the other two options are just taking percentages away from the main factors. 14% is a lot taken away. That's one reason why the yes and no options have been sitting at the same percentage for so long.
I just think removing them will help, because neither maybe or unsure will help the situation at hand anyways.

[Eclipseranch]

if you stand by this strong of a standard for theft, than the same standard would need to be applied to the Warrior cat series on here and the Malk dragons....this was not a line art issue at all...but these were based on other things (copyrights) and the site had to stop producing them as a result...but the same standard would apply and they would be altered...if Tess starts "changing" the past just where do you stop...a rhetorical question, of course, but something to think about for peeps who seem to be on the band wagon

This is why I'm on the lighter side of the art theft issue.
For those that are on the extreme side of the art theft issue of the fence, the next steps of that extreme would be to delete the warrior cats or overlay them with non recognizable art like scourge's collar and brightheart's face, re-do all the fennic foxes, delete all the malk dragons or change the colors entirely... at that point you may as well just streamline everything and make only one lineart for each species since we're worrying about old art theft.

At this extreme point of view of streamlining, this is a good reason not to allow any artist at all to create new lines ever. Only Tess should be making lines because there's honestly no way to trust that these kinds of things won't pop up over and over again.

You've also got the issue of the younger members that have been collecting these pets and don't understand the art theft issue at all or just don't care and vote on how pretty they think the pets are.

well said Shian

[Blooming]

honestly the reason i think the people who say no get yelled at on here is because a lot (not all) of them just come straight out with
"cs history guys!!!" and ridiculous banners. It kind of makes you think that every person that votes no thinks the same way

[star note]

I like the idea but maybe you should keep a few Equimagine horses to honor her beautiful art work and her time here. ♥

[dontdrinkthepoison]

I like the idea but maybe you should keep a few Equimagine horses to honor her beautiful art work and her time here. ♥

I like that idea. I am hoping we will get to keep some of the PPS ones actually. And maybe one donkey.. :)

[tiny]

I like the idea but maybe you should keep a few Equimagine horses to honor her beautiful art work and her time here. ♥

I like that idea. I am hoping we will get to keep some of the PPS ones actually. And maybe one donkey..

This would defeat the whole purpose of the transformation.

[ahirked]

I like the new drafts, but I prefer the old horses and ponies
I vote no even though I like the drafts but the Yes side will probably win so good luck guys!

[Shian]

I just wanna say for anyone who cares.. that I feel like there really is nothing wrong with a) voting yes because of the art theft issue or b) voting yes because you like the new lines ... which for various reasons pretty much cover why most people are voting yes.

My heart goes out to the ones voting no, though. If seems if you vote no you get bombarded with comments like
" How could you condone art theft!!!!"
"How could you not know that art theft is wrong.. where are your morals?"
"You're being selfish and not thinking right" (my fave cuz it was directed towards me)
"What are you blind?"
"You're not thinking CS as a whole"
"How can you possibly not see tracing?! They line up perfectly"!!

And yes.. everyone one of these comments were typed in the last couple of days. Plus more.. and they are usually followed up with two pages of "I agree" comments.. which can get very intimidating.. It doesn't help a person change their mind.. It makes them feel hurt and singled out.

To me, this is belittling someone just because they have a different opinion than you. Just because they want to keep the lines doesn't mean they are selfish, immoral, and blind.. that is ridiculous. Plus, you don't know the reason for a different opinion. Don't assume too much.


Give them the facts we know about.. and not paranoia -- "We are gonna shut down if the lineart isn't changed tomorrow"-- kind of stuff..

Let people know know about the theft issue and why you have your opinion, that's fine. But please allow others the curteousy to think for themselves.

And yes I know this is a lil bit of mini-moding and tried to resist.. but so many rules have been broken on this thread already.. I figured it wouldnt matter..

All of this. I've been screamed at, called names and more just because I decided to stand up for those who do like the equimage art and all others are doing is telling me "I don't have eyes".
It's funny the number of people putting me on a foes list when they never asked what I actually voted for or why.

There are a ton of reasons for both sides floating around right now. Let people make their own decision on what they feel is important.

[ahirked]

I like the idea but maybe you should keep a few Equimagine horses to honor her beautiful art work and her time here. ♥

I like that idea. I am hoping we will get to keep some of the PPS ones actually. And maybe one donkey..

This would defeat the whole purpose of the transformation.

Are the donkeys changing too? Or staying?