Updates to Rules (Update on page 7)

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Sadly drawing in Oekaki with an iPad is nearly impossible for me. I have to use another program and upload it. So I simply can‘t make „good“ covers. Any tips how to use Oekaki on iPad? I can‘t even zoom in when I try to draw.

[rabidcoyote]

I'm so super excited to see the AI update, and thank you so much!! Less excited to see the ban hammer on sketches and doodles on oekaki covers. By all means the 4th panel of the examples tells me more about the character in question than the 3rd ever could. :<

[DannyPoke]

Esp concerning animals and having to emphasize the age on them
But if it were just the warriors' example then why would the age have to be specified

The thing with a lot of animal roleplays (ESPECIALLY Warriors) is the animals are very heavily anthropomorphized, if not physically, then in the way they talk and act. But they still generally age the same way their species do in real life, with the exception of apprentices in Warriors being treated as Bigger Kittens who act about 10-12 human years when they first get apprenticed rather than the near full-grown cats who can get pregnant they are in real life. Specifying character age in relation to real life with heavily anthro animals can make things a lot less skeevy without needing to translate them into 'human ages' - if an animal in real life would be considered too young or an exceptional case for having babies (a year old wolf or a 4 month old cat for example), then they shouldn't be getting pregnant in an RP because they're still a juvenile. Warriors is an exception of course because it comes with its own "Congrats, You Are Now Socially An Adult" ceremony.

Edit: Actually after writing this I had the realisation that Warriors should probably be excluded from this rule because of its worldbuilding. Real cats can start having kittens at around 6 months, but in Warriors a 6 month old cat is a child. There should probably be an addendum to the rule that for Warriors the cats can only have kittens if they have their full warrior name.

[clouds-move-on]

Great to hear about the anti AI rule! Hopefully more sites continue to ban and restrict ai art. ^w^

I do find the update to the cover system... strange. I understand the want for art posted through oekaki to be more than just a blank canvas or some sloppy letters. That said; are sketches still permitted to be posted to CS? I know a lot of art that looks similiar to the bottom "incorrect" example that isn't made as a cover. Oekaki isnt my primary art program anymore, but it was for several years, and sometimes I just wanted to make and post unpolished sketches. That being said- it seems odd to me to restrict sketches for covers, while still allowing sketches overall. Why disallow sketch covers?

I agree with these sentiments as well.

but if i have to draw fully finished extra pieces to advertise my adopts- on the oekaki, especially, which i struggle with using sometimes- i'll have to charge more for my adopts & will constantly be worrying about whether my covers will 'qualify' or not, or if i'm going to get in trouble for not putting in enough elbow grease.

By all means the 4th panel of the examples tells me more about the character in question than the 3rd ever could. :<

[Wookieinmashoo]

Thank you for having the update separate from the current rules. This makes it much easier to find what has actually been update.

I had a question about the general art rules on the site regarding disturbing images. Would I send in a help ticket or would I PM an appropriate staff member?

[Simon]

Thank you for having the update separate from the current rules. This makes it much easier to find what has actually been update.

I had a question about the general art rules on the site regarding disturbing images. Would I send in a help ticket or would I PM an appropriate staff member?

Please send a help ticket, often PMs can get missed.

[Plushful]

Esp concerning animals and having to emphasize the age on them
But if it were just the warriors' example then why would the age have to be specified

The thing with a lot of animal roleplays (ESPECIALLY Warriors) is the animals are very heavily anthropomorphized, if not physically, then in the way they talk and act. But they still generally age the same way their species do in real life, with the exception of apprentices in Warriors being treated as Bigger Kittens who act about 10-12 human years when they first get apprenticed rather than the near full-grown cats who can get pregnant they are in real life. Specifying character age in relation to real life with heavily anthro animals can make things a lot less skeevy without needing to translate them into 'human ages' - if an animal in real life would be considered too young or an exceptional case for having babies (a year old wolf or a 4 month old cat for example), then they shouldn't be getting pregnant in an RP because they're still a juvenile. Warriors is an exception of course because it comes with its own "Congrats, You Are Now Socially An Adult" ceremony.

Edit: Actually after writing this I had the realisation that Warriors should probably be excluded from this rule because of its worldbuilding. Real cats can start having kittens at around 6 months, but in Warriors a 6 month old cat is a child. There should probably be an addendum to the rule that for Warriors the cats can only have kittens if they have their full warrior name.

See, thats my point tho, theyre animals, even if people are having them talk, its animals, not anthros>> the rule is for feral animals whereas
If the character isnt on 2 legs that isnt humanized either that is by definition an animal, not an anthro
But if they were anthro it would be covered with Human/Humanoid/Anthro Characters MAY:
Hug or kiss innocently on the forehead, cheek, or lips.
“Go to a room alone for a while” without any further description or implication about what they're up to. This is also know as a “time-skip” or “fade to black.”
And yes unfortunately cats are able to very young, same with humans??? Just bc theyre able *should* they or should they reach full growth before even allowing them to be paired (which would be around a year old for cats at the least)
Either way I feel itd be better to just go with the anthro rule of having an alone time and not calling it mating

[rabidcoyote]

I'm so super excited to see the AI update, and thank you so much!! Less excited to see the ban hammer on sketches and doodles on oekaki covers. By all means the 4th panel of the examples tells me more about the character in question than the 3rd ever could. :<

I've thought about my take a little more and I have some reservations - for a clarification of the rules it doesn't clarify a lot to me at all so maybe someone could explain to me where the line lies.

• Not allowed:
  
  • (...) doodles, (...) quick sketches.

• We allow:
  
  • Additional art (...).

This seems to me like a contradiction, I'd very much consider doodles and quick sketches additional art. As long as the character is clearly recognizable, why not allow it? I get that a sketch of a cat would be too generic to count, but if there's enough design-specific detail or stylization to recognize as the adopt, would it still be off limits?

Also - where do closed species fall into this? Would the premade background (for the species that have one) classify as word building?

[Darkcloud!]

Edit: Actually after writing this I had the realisation that Warriors should probably be excluded from this rule because of its worldbuilding. Real cats can start having kittens at around 6 months, but in Warriors a 6 month old cat is a child. There should probably be an addendum to the rule that for Warriors the cats can only have kittens if they have their full warrior name.

That's why the rule is " vet/animal expert approved adult age range for that species.". Warriors just happens to reflect the stages of life that by adding ceremony/naming conventions for the transition between kitten to 'teen' to warrior/other roles. The rule already pretty much says that your juvenile animals, speaking or not, shouldn't be having offspring prior to entering the IRL adult age that the animal would need to be in. Vets consider cats adults from 2 to 10 years of age.

[Seasonal]

The cover rule isn't new; it is just being clarified with clearer examples. The main takeaway is that you should not be creating a sloppy cover just to post an adoptable in the Oekaki board when you didn't use the Oekaki program to create it, because then it would be better suited for the user-made adoptables board.

As far as the roleplay rule goes, if the characters are not considered adults, then they should not be having offspring.