Equine Transformation Project - VOTING CLOSED

[wibeke]

Even the 'updated' pony lines are pretty much the same.

What do you mean?

Check out the legs and the tail on the updated pony lines, they're very very similar.

Oh, you mean on the equi ponies? I see what you mean, apart from the heads both the horses and ponies look more or less the same.
I thought you meant the yulynh ponies, so I was a bit confused, sorry. Just disregard my post. ^^

[emmiedee]

If not traced, then heavily referenced...

Has that been found yet?
Or have I missed it on the pages?
In my opinion it looks traced. It lines up too perfectly.

[plum]

Yup, there is.


compare the legs and tail to this


Can you not see the similarities?

/oopsies, ninja'd

[Dann]

I may not be totally understanding anything but in the couple pages I've read many people seem to be attacking the fact that the lines are still "mostly the same" but if you're going for an update to try to solve the problem of lineart copying and want to keep the general pose idea along the same thought wouldn't it have to remain similar just to follow the correct anatomy of the pose? Once again I might be confused, and having not drawn much I may be totally off the mark here I just wondered about that :3

On the actual note of the transformation project I would personally vote in the affirmative as I really love some of the examples given on the first post c: The only thing I;m curious about regarding this is if there is any way we can contact equimagine personally? Because if the lines are in the clear enough to not be a copyright issue anymore (which from my understanding they are? Once again please correct if I'm just spouting rubbish ;p) then it seems that it would just be something decent, and a common courtesy, for Chickensmoothie to get equimagine's thoughts on this project personally :3

[Romba]

If not traced, then heavily referenced...

Thanks for explaining for me. Lol i can't do it well on my phone without it taking 10 minutes.. Sorry I didn't specify what I lines I was talking about

[Grand Duchess]

I may not be totally understanding anything but in the couple pages I've read many people seem to be attacking the fact that the lines are still "mostly the same" but if you're going for an update to try to solve the problem of lineart copying and want to keep the general pose idea along the same thought wouldn't it have to remain similar just to follow the correct anatomy of the pose? Once again I might be confused, and having not drawn much I may be totally off the mark here I just wondered about that :3

On the actual note of the transformation project I would personally vote in the affirmative as I really love some of the examples given on the first post c: The only thing I;m curious about regarding this is if there is any way we can contact equimagine personally? Because if the lines are in the clear enough to not be a copyright issue anymore (which from my understanding they are? Once again please correct if I'm just spouting rubbish ;p) then it seems that it would just be something decent, and a common courtesy, for Chickensmoothie to get equimagine's thoughts on this project personally :3

Considering that euimagine gave CS rights to her lines, and that she is no longer on the site because of the tracing problems, they don't have to ask her, and probably won't. Its not a matter of how she feels anymore because she doesn't own the line art.

[tacocat.]

GUUUUUUUYYYYSSSSSSSS.
The lines are tracedtracedtracedtracedtracedtracedtraaaaaaaaaacccccccced!
Okay c: Now that that's out of my system.
CS is very outspoken against art theft. If art theft is repeated or you lie about it or run around cursing the mods because they locked your topic, you might even get banned. No one here smiles upon art theft. If fact, it's widely frowned upon.
So, bear that in mind as you vote. Think about how hypocritical it would be if CS kept these traced(!) lines. What impression would people immediately have about our members? "Oh, these guys are amazing! They approve of stealing at! Yay, lemme join!" No, of course that's not what they'd think! People who come here and actually pay attention to all the hubbub would think, "What in the name of Pete is wrong with these people? Ruuuun awaaaaaaay!"
Also, if equimegine wasn't wrong to trace those lines, then why can't I find my favorite artist and literally steal their skills? Yet more hypocrisy.
"But the lines are so pretty so we should keep them! If they're pretty then it's not a big deal that they were traced!" So if I trace the Mona Lisa, I shouldn't get sued or arrested just because it's pretty? If you were one of the people who said "but it's pretty" and then went "that's so not cool" to my example, you are being a hypocrit.
Furthermore, if we keep these lines and one of the photographers see, we might not even have the designs, old lines or not. So frankly, some of you are being very selfish. I personally love the old designs and think that they would look great on the new lines, and even if I didn't, I'd rather have that than an error box.
And yes. This is an immediate threat! Someone has contacted the photographer of the foal. So, do you want to lose the designs as a whole just because you can't have it your way?

Please comment or reply but do not attack me or be rude. I'll not hesitate to report you. I logged off the site in tears last night because people were too rude to hold their tongues.

[Patch.]

I don't think they should be changed, simply because my favorite horse, the Buckskin PPS, would look ugly. In my opinion, the newer lines' middle stage isn't as cute as the original ones for ponies. :c

[Chris Redfield]

I don't think they should be changed, simply because my favorite horse, the Buckskin PPS, would look ugly. In my opinion, the newer lines' middle stage isn't as cute as the original ones for ponies. :c

I see some questions, answers, and arguments being repeated over and over and over in this topic. If there is anything that you're unsure of, please just read through the topic first to see if what you're looking for has already been covered.

We have noticed that it seems like the main concerns so far are about a few favorite pets like the PPS ponies and the rainbow mane changing. If the opinion remains divided then we may re-vote with new conditions such as keeping the PPS ponies and have special line edits for things like the rainbow mane horse so that it still looks good on the new lines.

[;Dark; (I quit...)]

If not traced, then heavily referenced...

They really do seen quite alike, so maybe equimagine did trace; still I'm not accusing. (Forgive me if this was discussed in earlier posts, but did equi trace?)

~Dark

Edit:

GUUUUUUUYYYYSSSSSSSS.
The lines are tracedtracedtracedtracedtracedtracedtraaaaaaaaaacccccccced!
Okay c: Now that that's out of my system.
CS is very outspoken against art theft. If art theft is repeated or you lie about it or run around cursing the mods because they locked your topic, you might even get banned. No one here smiles upon art theft. If fact, it's widely frowned upon.
So, bear that in mind as you vote. Think about how hypocritical it would be if CS kept these traced(!) lines. What impression would people immediately have about our members? "Oh, these guys are amazing! They approve of stealing at! Yay, lemme join!" No, of course that's not what they'd think! People who come here and actually pay attention to all the hubbub would think, "What in the name of Pete is wrong with these people? Ruuuun awaaaaaaay!"
Also, if equimegine wasn't wrong to trace those lines, then why can't I find my favorite artist and literally steal their skills? Yet more hypocrisy.
"But the lines are so pretty so we should keep them! If they're pretty then it's not a big deal that they were traced!" So if I trace the Mona Lisa, I shouldn't get sued or arrested just because it's pretty? If you were one of the people who said "but it's pretty" and then went "that's so not cool" to my example, you are being a hypocrit.
Furthermore, if we keep these lines and one of the photographers see, we might not even have the designs, old lines or not. So frankly, some of you are being very selfish. I personally love the old designs and think that they would look great on the new lines, and even if I didn't, I'd rather have that than an error box.
And yes. This is an immediate threat! Someone has contacted the photographer of the foal. So, do you want to lose the designs as a whole just because you can't have it your way?

Please comment or reply but do not attack me or be rude. I'll not hesitate to report you. I logged off the site in tears last night because people were too rude to hold their tongues.

Woaly crow; sweet Narnian potatoes. I just changed my vote right around.