[CS Items Popular Values Guide]

[houndoom]

I am just going to say, I really like the intention, but a few overpay trades to not represent an items value. A token item from 2016 is not worth the same as an items released in 2009. The thread linked states that the trades in the thread are not to be used as a guide as most of them are overpay.

by this logic a few overpay trades shouldnt dictate that a pet that turned vr in march of 2011 should be going for 5 nons and yet one person paid that for a raven a few months ago out of impatience and it is being currently used as a trading value.

when analysing item worth and attempt to put a value on them you really. dont have much to go by? except being aware of how an item was handed out, how long it was available for, how many active traders have that item etc.

lets take the event tokens as an example. 2016 event had an exorbitant amount of tokens. and i really do mean a lot, im pretty sure the highest amount of tokens out of all events thus far, obviously making some more widely available than others. you look at what the tokens were for - were they tokens you got straight from the banner, or intermediate tokens obtained from npcs which you then needed for another trade in? most people's goals is to get all pets in an event, realistically by the end how many people do you think would have an intermediate token left except item collectors who are few and far between?

all the values in this thread are based on researching how they were obtained, rough availability PLUS trading experiences from MULTIPLE item collectors. aside from having a (now discontinued) collection of my own, i have, off the top of my head 10 friends with complete or almost complete item collections. im pretty sure if its one trade or two it can be brushed aside as an outlier. but when it is ten people saying the same thing? id be inclined to think thats not an outlier anymore

[Wookieinmashoo]

I am just going to say, I really like the intention, but a few overpay trades to not represent an items value. A token item from 2016 is not worth the same as an items released in 2009. The thread linked states that the trades in the thread are not to be used as a guide as most of them are overpay.

Hello, many of the items released in 2009 are not as rare as later tokens because they were free to all players. Many of them were also rereleased in 2010. The tokens from 2009 are all listed as .5 nons+ because they were very difficult to find, and not entirely free like the other items. The store items from 2009 are listed as 1 non+ because they were not free at all. Dates certainly play a part because of scarcity but they do not fully represent value.

2016 tokens are not hard to find at all and are not worth anything more than a 2016 uncommon. It doesn't matter how many people overpay for them, it's still overpay. The raven perch I can see being worth a rare from its release year because of the steps needed and the ability to only hold one during the event. This guide is full of misinformation and it's only going to hurt people who are trying to trade them and trade for them. SabrinaB working with a lot of people spent a long time finding values of items so their placement was fair and wouldn't cause people to overpay.

Also I am not going to argue the value of the raven dog. That is a really poor example to use in this case.

[lucky333123]

I am just going to say, I really like the intention, but a few overpay trades to not represent an items value. A token item from 2016 is not worth the same as an items released in 2009. The thread linked states that the trades in the thread are not to be used as a guide as most of them are overpay.

Hello, many of the items released in 2009 are not as rare as later tokens because they were free to all players. Many of them were also rereleased in 2010. The tokens from 2009 are all listed as .5 nons+ because they were very difficult to find, and not entirely free like the other items. The store items from 2009 are listed as 1 non+ because they were not free at all. Dates certainly play a part because of scarcity but they do not fully represent value.

Going off of what gay stated, event tokens tend to be much rarer than you would realize. Most people especially earlier events traded their tokens for pets since pets are more favorable for most people. However, there are some exceptions from various events where certain tokens will be worth more because of lack of quantity due to it being used as a major trade in or being an intermediate token (Raven perch for example is a good one — you had to trade tokens for a perch order and then trade the perch order for the perch and then you could use the perch to get a raven). Intermediate tokens are easily worth more and please keep in mind that a lot of trades that are posted on that thread are literally random offers that many users got. In addition, most users don’t tend to realize their items are worth more than they realize. I have gotten plenty of trades that I never posted on the thread because I didn’t deem them fair or they were overpay. In addition, demand also comes into play when it comes to items. You can think of a high demand item being like the raven. The raven is the most common out of the ‘10 store pets, but still goes for 5 nons which rarity wise makes no sense. Overall, items are very complex and they don’t have a rarity bar making it more challenging.

[Wookieinmashoo]

I am just going to say, I really like the intention, but a few overpay trades to not represent an items value. A token item from 2016 is not worth the same as an items released in 2009. The thread linked states that the trades in the thread are not to be used as a guide as most of them are overpay.

Hello, many of the items released in 2009 are not as rare as later tokens because they were free to all players. Many of them were also rereleased in 2010. The tokens from 2009 are all listed as .5 nons+ because they were very difficult to find, and not entirely free like the other items. The store items from 2009 are listed as 1 non+ because they were not free at all. Dates certainly play a part because of scarcity but they do not fully represent value.

Going off of what gay stated, event tokens tend to be much rarer than you would realize. Most people especially earlier events traded their tokens for pets since pets are more favorable for most people. However, there are some exceptions from various events where certain tokens will be worth more because of lack of quantity due to it being used as a major trade in or being an intermediate token (Raven perch for example is a good one — you had to trade tokens for a perch order and then trade the perch order for the perch and then you could use the perch to get a raven). Intermediate tokens are easily worth more and please keep in mind that a lot of trades that are posted on that thread are literally random offers that many users got. In addition, most users don’t tend to realize their items are worth more than they realize. I have gotten plenty of trades that I never posted on the thread because I didn’t deem them fair or they were overpay. In addition, demand also comes into play when it comes to items. You can think of a high demand item being like the raven. The raven is the most common out of the ‘10 store pets, but still goes for 5 nons which rarity wise makes no sense. Overall, items are very complex and they don’t have a rarity bar making it more challenging.

Event tokens are rares, I know this. They are not that much rarer, they are not hard to find.I'm not going to say anything further since there doesn't seem to be a point. The majority of the items on the guide are fine, but there are some I highly disagree with and think people are seriously over valuing things that are easy to find.

[Demonking Urizen]

Honestly, some of the tokens from past events are way, way harder to find than items released in 2009/2010
Like, e.g. I came across more of the free Christmas tree item parts from 2009 than the plant / mechanic tokens from the space event 2016.

[nicole]

I just wanted to mention that items don’t get rereleased and as time goes on it gets harder to find them. Nobody has any idea of how many of each items are on the site as you cannot track them through trades or ID, and they don’t have rarity. There are many successful trades of items fetching the values on this list, and this was made to stop people from using that outdated item values list so traders don’t scam users out of their items by linking them to that list and claiming that they’re not worth that much when in reality they’re worth more than a simple 09 rare. I don’t see why there’s an argument about the values of the items on this list, I don’t see the items being rereleased any time soon

[morax]

SabrinaB working with a lot of people spent a long time finding values of items so their placement was fair and wouldn't cause people to overpay.

Also I am not going to argue the value of the raven dog. That is a really poor example to use in this case.

Then how come not all the items or a good handful have had their values updated? Should we really go by a guide that is stuck in the past? Despite many trades being posted for certain items?


I'm certain theres plenty of trades for the scarves, individually or not, that show that these scarves arent just a september anymore lmao. So why not update them?

All i'm saying is, somebody had to step up and do something about users following an outdated guide and getting scammed out of their items that go for way more.

If youre gonna have a guide, its gonna have to be continuously updated frequently, and if you dont have the time to do so, then someone else should have ownership honestly, its not an easy task, but not impossible.

[reanimator]

thank you wookieinmashoo for bringing up the token thing, i was definitely thinking the same thing but didnt want to say anything
an item from 2016 is definitely not worth an ma, thats ridiculous, putting it at the same worth as the raven perch or the 09 plushies doesnt make sense AT ALL
i havent even seen any demand for those tokens until recently
if its really worth so much more than it should be an 09 rare at most

[sludge]

thank you wookieinmashoo for bringing up the token thing, i was definitely thinking the same thing but didnt want to say anything
an item from 2016 is definitely not worth an ma, thats ridiculous, putting it at the same worth as the raven perch or the 09 plushies doesnt make sense AT ALL
i havent even seen any demand for those tokens until recently
if its really worth so much more than it should be an 09 rare at most

but you can't base it on a comparison like that??? using that logic newer urs wouldn't be anywhere near the value of other urs that's incredibly silly. if an item from 2016 is just as scarce as an item from 2009 it should be valued the same. all of gays information has come from serious methodical research, asking people who have gone after and completed full item collections, and looking at the statistics of availability and circulation for these items.

also your reasoning that there's been no demand for the items is the exact reason why the value is so high. items are notoriously downplayed and undervalued. they're not circulated, theyre overlooked and so the scarcity is there. just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[lucky333123]

thank you wookieinmashoo for bringing up the token thing, i was definitely thinking the same thing but didnt want to say anything
an item from 2016 is definitely not worth an ma, thats ridiculous, putting it at the same worth as the raven perch or the 09 plushies doesnt make sense AT ALL
i havent even seen any demand for those tokens until recently
if its really worth so much more than it should be an 09 rare at most

I've actually struggled to get the summer '16 tokens even right after the event. There were so many tokens and people really liked certain ones. Not all of them are worth the same. Year does take into account, but keep in mind items are never re-released. Also I believe some of the tokens were highly popular due to trying to get certain outcomes like that green VR robot rat, thus people traded those ones in the most, thus reducing the amount of that particular token. A lot of the space event pets were highly popular compared to some other summer events. I rarely see certain tokens and that is with me searching randomly through users to find it. Even many users that were around for '16, don't usually have the few '16 summer tokens that are worth a MA.