[🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated**

A place to get help determining the value of a pet or item, and find resources such as trading and valuation guides

Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)

Yes, it'll make things less confusing
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No, leave things as they are now
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I'm fine with it either way
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I don't know / I just want to vote
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby *Hollystar* » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:41 pm

crrow wrote:not to create any conflict, but it frustrates me that there is such a drastic difference in compassion and understanding from 2019-now. i, once again, know that it’s a six year difference but do we seriously value material things higher than having a community? like c’mon ):

i really miss the old chicken smoothie sometimes. i know i’ve only been playing since 2016 (made a new account since then), but it felt more real and refreshing. i met really cool people from all over and got to share my art and interests. i’ve yet to do that since revisiting, because most people i find are looking for the material things in this game. not even material things- pixels.

i’ll be the first one to admit that i love trading and i’ve adapted to horror’s list. i’ll admit that i do like to trade my pets up and find demand and values fascinating. it doesn’t mean that the past doesn’t weigh heavy on my mind.

This is something I've been thinking about a lot. Back in the day the forums were so active and trading was kind of a secondary thing (for me anyway). I did a LOT of gifting high value pets because I felt such a strong sense of community and wanted to help other players out in achieving their favorite pets. Nowadays gifting a PPS dragoncat to a stranger is unthinkable because you'll never be able to get one again without selling your soul. It really feels like everyone is just in it for the value especially when it comes to store pets. Do people even actually like these old pets that much more? I don't think so. So while I don't have a solution I do think there needs to be a change. These old store pets are not worth what we are paying for them, and perceived demand has taken too much control of the value of these pets.
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby draculauraaa » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 pm

after reading everyone elses statements here I'm glad I'm not the only one who is upset at the... store situation. I've only been playing since 2017 (still over 7 years, but I'm not that ancient yet, lol) and when I first started playing, yea a store (and especially an older one) was hard to get, but not impossible. maybe for a new player getting a really old store pet wouldnt be easy but for an experienced or lucky player, it was achievable. the pps dragon cat has been my biggest dreamie ever since I started, it so cute and I've always wanted it, but even with all of my omgsr and rarest pets right now put together I'm still probably no where near getting it. I play this game because it was a huge part of my childhood and I love collecting pets that I find interesting. while I have gotten some pets that I've wanted for a while, there have been some that I've had to accept I probably will never get because values are insane and will most likely never stop rising.
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby .crossfire. » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:26 pm

draculauraaa wrote:after reading everyone elses statements here I'm glad I'm not the only one who is upset at the... store situation. I've only been playing since 2017 (still over 7 years, but I'm not that ancient yet, lol) and when I first started playing, yea a store (and especially an older one) was hard to get, but not impossible. maybe for a new player getting a really old store pet wouldnt be easy but for an experienced or lucky player, it was achievable. the pps dragon cat has been my biggest dreamie ever since I started, it so cute and I've always wanted it, but even with all of my omgsr and rarest pets right now put together I'm still probably no where near getting it. I play this game because it was a huge part of my childhood and I love collecting pets that I find interesting. while I have gotten some pets that I've wanted for a while, there have been some that I've had to accept I probably will never get because values are insane and will most likely never stop rising.

I have to agree. I've been a member since 2015, granted I "left" in 2020 and just recently came back, and nothing is obtainable anymore. There's pets I had previously, that I'm now having to work 10x harder just to get. Imo it's not as fun as it used to be. Before, CS was like a big family, everyone I feel like, was trying to help eachother get their dreamies and make each others day, and now there is just so much greed when it comes to pets. I mean, in order to even get any of the older store pets, you either need to be insanely lucky, or have been here since the beginning. Kind of like what LionKingdom said about the Raven Dog, how is anybody going to be able to "afford" their dream pets? I could use every single pet I own, and I don't think I'd even touch half the value of the raven dog. I personally find there to be no reason why older store pets are so "expensive " other than strictly greed. With them not rereleasing the store pets, I feel as though the demand is just going to get worse as the years go on, especially since they're just going to get harder and harder to find (please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should rerelease store pets, but something should be done).
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby Snowwall » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:12 am

Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:


(I kinda assume that 1 NON = X * 1 MA = Y * 1 C$, with unknown X and Y, but it seems things are a bit more of a mess? If X and Y are undefined, at least tell the meaning of the abbreviations, their "arbitrary letters" quality bugs me even more than their "arbitrary non-decimal translations that do not work mathematically" quality)
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby LionKingdom » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:20 am

Snowwall wrote:Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:


1 non = 10 MA

1 MA = 10 Old rares
Therefore 1 non is 100 old rares

Old rares = rares from 2010-2011 or up
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby Pastel-Axle » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:21 am

Snowwall wrote:Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:

The value of MAs/Nons can be found at the top of the Tier Worths post in this thread! As it says, a MA is worth 10 old rares and a non is 100 old rares (or 10 MAs).
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby pirating » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:09 am

Snowwall wrote:Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:


    under "What each "Tier" is Worth", at the top, it says:
    1 Old Rare = basic Rare pet from 2010/2011
    10 Old Rares = 1 MA
    100 Old Rares = 10 MA = 1 NON
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby SnapDragonJoy » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:59 am

Snowwall wrote:Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:


(I kinda assume that 1 NON = X * 1 MA = Y * 1 C$, with unknown X and Y, but it seems things are a bit more of a mess? If X and Y are undefined, at least tell the meaning of the abbreviations, their "arbitrary letters" quality bugs me even more than their "arbitrary non-decimal translations that do not work mathematically" quality)


MA stands for Mid Advent
It refers to the group of dogs that came out for Christmas of 2008. The very first Christmas of Chicken Smoothie.

I'm guessing because that there wasn't many people playing then (compared to now) not many of the dogs were adopted.

Were they only available for one day? Like the advent pets are now?

Hence why they are rare and used as a measuring device for pets now.

NON is a bit harder to explain because I'm not sure what pets it refers to. I think perhaps this dog from August of 2008.
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This dog is in the same liter as the blue balloon and pink balloon dogs. They don't have a balloon. So they are a NON balloon? Possibly rarer than the two balloon dogs.

Someone else please add more information. This is just what I've gathered in my little brain. Lol!
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby fιяєfβ„“Ρƒ » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:39 am

SnapDragonJoy wrote:NON is a bit harder to explain because I'm not sure what pets it refers to. I think perhaps this dog from August of 2008.
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This dog is in the same liter as the blue balloon and pink balloon dogs. They don't have a balloon. So they are a NON balloon? Possibly rarer than the two balloon dogs.

Someone else please add more information. This is just what I've gathered in my little brain. Lol!


The term non refers to the pets Nonjewel, Noncoon, Nontag and Nonswirl.
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It's also widely used as a unit of measurement. 1 Non = 10 MAs = 100 Old Rares
So it has two meanings, it could be one of those for dogs or a unit of value, depending on the context.

The non ballon, despite sharing the same prefix, was never really considered a "non" like those four dogs, and is worth 0.5nons/5 mas.
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Re: [🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated

Postby Pastel-Axle » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:41 am

SnapDragonJoy wrote:
Snowwall wrote:Re: the poll of "Change the NON/MA system to just MA? (ex: 2-2.5 Non will just be written as 20-25MA)"

I came to this thread on my quest to find out what a "non" is... I still don't know, even though I now see that it's some huge amount of C$. Would you kindly add that information to the first message in this thread, as well as "what is MA?" Feels weird, like reading a book from the middle - everybody is debating why the hero did X and you don't even know if X is a heroic feat or the depths of wrongdoing :roll:


(I kinda assume that 1 NON = X * 1 MA = Y * 1 C$, with unknown X and Y, but it seems things are a bit more of a mess? If X and Y are undefined, at least tell the meaning of the abbreviations, their "arbitrary letters" quality bugs me even more than their "arbitrary non-decimal translations that do not work mathematically" quality)


MA stands for Mid Advent
It refers to the group of dogs that came out for Christmas of 2008. The very first Christmas of Chicken Smoothie.

I'm guessing because that there wasn't many people playing then (compared to now) not many of the dogs were adopted.

Were they only available for one day? Like the advent pets are now?

Hence why they are rare and used as a measuring device for pets now.

NON is a bit harder to explain because I'm not sure what pets it refers to. I think perhaps this dog from August of 2008.
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This dog is in the same liter as the blue balloon and pink balloon dogs. They don't have a balloon. So they are a NON balloon? Possibly rarer than the two balloon dogs.

Someone else please add more information. This is just what I've gathered in my little brain. Lol!

Ah, the nonballoon is a weird edge case that isn’t actually a β€˜non’ despite the name. It’s just called that because it’s a balloon dog that lacks a balloon, it trades for the same amount as the other balloon dogs!

The term β€˜non’ comes from the July β€˜08 dog litters, in which their more common members are of similar rarity to one another and visually look identical to some of their rarer littermates bar a recognisable detail (the nonjewel is missing the Sunjewel’s jewellery and the nonswirl is missing the moonswirl’s swirl patterns for instance).
As they are comparable in rarity and visual traits, and originate from the site’s first pet releases, they serve as a strong baseline value.
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