[🐝] Guide to Trading Every Pet on CS --- **being updated**

[Solloby]

i agree with the point that if pets were assigned a rarity, but then also some sort of scale or number showing where exactly they fall within that rarity it would help. for example, let’s say there’s 100 pets within the omgsr bracket, the orange cerb being an older 09 store pet would fall closer to 1, being the most valuable pets based off of how many exist. where as a pet such as the non swirl may fall closer to 60, meaning while it is omgsr, there are more of them available than those closer to 1. something to actually help understand what the exact rarity is. which would help set a value.

I was thinking a little less granular but yeah, something like that. If UR Banana was OMGSR 1 and Nontag was OMGSR 5 and Pink Punk Dog was OMGSR 10, then my original question about the store pets would be easily answered. I would be able to see that oh, these store pets are OMGSR but even though they haven't been rereleased, there are still a fair few of the originals around so it's totally valid that they are not worth a Non yet. If Nontag and Pink Punk were both OMGSR 5 though, then they'd need the values updating. I wonder if that's a suggestion that would ever be entertained. There are just so many OMGSRs now. The batch rarity change in 2023 makes it hard for us to try and sort out their comparative rarities by ourselves.

[sunka]

i do absolutely agree with that. i think there needs to be a bit more clarity on what within the omgsr bracket is worth each other. because, like you said, if the banana is closer to the orange cerb, it makes sense that it would go for more. right now all we have is this list, the successful trades thread and the hope we are valuing things right. but a more defined value we can’t see, but could possibility be implemented, would help solve a lot of current concerns.

[lil rascal]

I am also baffled by the statements that punks, androids and the like are not in high demand. Yes they have lower demand in comparison to a Raven or Cerb but so does just about every other pet claimed to be in demand. They are often a deciding factor in whether a high demand store will be traded down or not. If they were not in demand their presence in these trades would not be so important. It seems to me that they are another victim of the rumour mill. Everyone, including this guide, explicitly states that their values are a solid 0.5 non and anything else is unfair so therefore they have no room to move.

[himarry 124]

I am also baffled by the statements that punks, androids and the like are not in high demand. Yes they have lower demand in comparison to a Raven or Cerb but so does just about every other pet claimed to be in demand. They are often a deciding factor in whether a high demand store will be traded down or not. If they were not in demand their presence in these trades would not be so important. It seems to me that they are another victim of the rumour mill. Everyone, including this guide, explicitly states that their values are a solid 0.5 non and anything else is unfair so therefore they have no room to move.

Punks and androids are high demand but will likely remain 0.5n (excluding green and lolita) because they are not so extreme that people attempt to push them. I hope this sounds right

[Pastel-Axle]

I am also baffled by the statements that punks, androids and the like are not in high demand. Yes they have lower demand in comparison to a Raven or Cerb but so does just about every other pet claimed to be in demand. They are often a deciding factor in whether a high demand store will be traded down or not. If they were not in demand their presence in these trades would not be so important. It seems to me that they are another victim of the rumour mill. Everyone, including this guide, explicitly states that their values are a solid 0.5 non and anything else is unfair so therefore they have no room to move.

Punks and androids are high demand but will likely remain 0.5n (excluding green and lolita) because they are not so extreme that people attempt to push them. I hope this sounds right

Yeah that’s exactly it. They’re popular and well liked, but not to the point you see people either demanding or seeking overpay. Again, not every high demand pet is a Raven situation (nor should it be, I’d imagine that would hurt the overall trade economy a lot aha)

[jprspereira]

i agree with the point that if pets were assigned a rarity, but then also some sort of scale or number showing where exactly they fall within that rarity it would help. for example, let’s say there’s 100 pets within the omgsr bracket, the orange cerb being an older 09 store pet would fall closer to 1, being the most valuable pets based off of how many exist. where as a pet such as the non swirl may fall closer to 60, meaning while it is omgsr, there are more of them available than those closer to 1. something to actually help understand what the exact rarity is. which would help set a value.

I was thinking a little less granular but yeah, something like that. If UR Banana was OMGSR 1 and Nontag was OMGSR 5 and Pink Punk Dog was OMGSR 10, then my original question about the store pets would be easily answered. I would be able to see that oh, these store pets are OMGSR but even though they haven't been rereleased, there are still a fair few of the originals around so it's totally valid that they are not worth a Non yet. If Nontag and Pink Punk were both OMGSR 5 though, then they'd need the values updating. I wonder if that's a suggestion that would ever be entertained. There are just so many OMGSRs now. The batch rarity change in 2023 makes it hard for us to try and sort out their comparative rarities by ourselves.

But isnt this type of data impossible to get either way? We have 2 options: we either ask Nick or we scrap the whole website. Both of these options don't sound plausible. Genuinely asking, I'm not in favor or agaisnt whatever is being discussed here.

[sunka]

i don’t think it would be a big ask to at the very least ask nick if it is possible. when there was enough traction and asking about a rarity overhaul, the admins were willing and did do a rarity overhaul which is where we are at now. i think explaining the issues as a whole and asking if it’s a possibility isn’t out of the question. the worst answer is no, but if we never ask we never know.

[jprspereira]

i don’t think it would be a big ask to at the very least ask nick if it is possible. when there was enough traction and asking about a rarity overhaul, the admins were willing and did do a rarity overhaul which is where we are at now. i think explaining the issues as a whole and asking if it’s a possibility isn’t out of the question. the worst answer is no, but if we never ask we never know.

I was under the impression we already got a no though. People wanted specific numbers of how many of each pet exist and that information was refused. That's why people eventually started to hoard a particular omgsc pony and have it deleted to test how many exist between rarities. I'd wish to quote what Tess/Nick actually said (I feel like I'm not dreaming? XD) but I couldn't find it anymore. It would be awesome if someone knew where it was.

[sunka]

i don’t think it would be a big ask to at the very least ask nick if it is possible. when there was enough traction and asking about a rarity overhaul, the admins were willing and did do a rarity overhaul which is where we are at now. i think explaining the issues as a whole and asking if it’s a possibility isn’t out of the question. the worst answer is no, but if we never ask we never know.

I was under the impression we already got a no though. People wanted specific numbers of how many of each pet exist and that information was refused. That's why people eventually started to hoard a particular omgsc pony and have it deleted to test how many exist between rarities. I'd wish to quote what Tess/Nick actually said (I feel like I'm not dreaming? XD) but I couldn't find it anymore. It would be awesome if someone knew where it was.

i would think in this case, asking for a sliding scale or more definition of the higher level rarities is a different question than how many exist. as opposed to something such as there are 100 orange cerbs, put it on some sort of sliding scale or percentile showing which pets are actually the rarest within the rarity brackets and which have more in circulation.

[sweetsakura]

i second firefly's post.

the pps dragoncat has been insanely difficult to get due to the demand. even having old 2011-2014 store pets, their worth comes nowhere near to the pps dragoncat for example.

i remember the dragoncat being 1ma in 2016, 0.5 nons around 2018/19 and now its between 1-1,5 nons which is ridiculous.

meanwhile, the store dogs for example (which still have good demand) have been stagnant as 1MA for a few years now. even though the years go by and the player count increases. same goes for the fairy rats for example. some are now even omgsr and still remain at 1MA even though a lot of players consider them as dreamies and demand is high.

i would rather rarities and worths be considered by the number/count of how many of a certain pet exists.

(i also play xanje for example, and there is a clear count of how many exist when you click on the pet, as well as a counter of how many coins / gems the pet has been selling for on average. this hugely helps when trading your pets off / selling them. (i know this would be difficult to do on chickensmoothie, as you most often trade pets for pets, not sell them for coins and there being no "official" value system doesn't help either.)

i do have one suggestion as to how to solve the store pet count and value problem.

imagine that on december 18th there was an additional optional box in the store, which could be bought for chickendollars.

there would be a limit that each players could only buy a certain box once.

my suggestion: (example)

store pet re-release box 1 (2009/2012)
cost: 300c$
(chance of getting one random store pet from between 09-'12)

store pet re-release box 2 (2013/2016)
cost: 200c$
(chance of getting one random store pet)

store pet re-release box 3 (2017-2021)
cost: 100c$
(chance of getting one random store pet)

i think this would be great to get more stores in the system for trades.