*DISCONTINUED* Rares List Guide (1 March 2019)

A place to get help determining the value of a pet or item, and find resources such as trading and valuation guides

What would you personally like to see done with the Rares List?

Poll ended at Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:15 am

1. Maintain - keep the Rares List the same but update pet values.
188
11%
2. Restructure - vote on ways to majorly update, restructure or rebuild the Rares List.
697
40%
3. Retire - discontinue the list and stop updating it.
770
44%
4. Undecided - don't know but show me the poll results
76
4%
 
Total votes : 1731

Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby DaDwarf » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:19 am

I like the poll rascal suggested and if we use it on every omgsorare it cuts down on having to discuss each and everyone. I would say that all omg so rares below the last option will need reevaluating @obsidian!

So we need trades for the foal, rarity changes compared to the other higher mains list pets and we need to write out what the idk vote means in one big post and then the poll can go up?

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~ Sunjewel/UR Tiger Dog (sun was omg from 2012 overhaul, tiger too)
~ Moonswirl (overhaul omg, down jan 2013, up march 2013, stayed up since)
~ UR B-Wolf (omg upon overhaul
~ Plains Zebra (always been omg)
~ Mountain Zebra/Dogtag (mountain and tag omg upon haul)
~ UR Cat (omg upon overhaul)
~ UR Banana/UR Cucumber (nana omg upon overhaul, cuc omg then down vr in dec 2015)
~ July PPS/Coontail (july pps omg upon overhaul, coon vr, up july 2013, down augh 2014, up march 2016, down feb 2017 still vr)
~ UR Aussie/UR Phoenix (aussie omg upon release, phoenix too)
~ I don't know/just wanted to vote/whatever wording you want for this
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby ElementalInsanity » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:20 am

It had been voiced and agreed about not using trade evidence because it being pure demand based and not being useful in a move up. All it will show is pets going for the tier or under that they’re on, not really help with moving it up? And I myself don’t think trade evidence would help, so I’m against using it.

I think what we’d need is the rarity changes for each tier written out a bit longer than how you did though that’s a great start.
I also think the wording should be changed to ‘I just wanted to vote’ instead of ‘I don’t know’ to stop any confusion and then we don’t even need to write out what it would mean tbh.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby Targaryen » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:24 am

ElementalInsanity wrote:It had been voiced and agreed about not using trade evidence because it being pure demand based and not being useful in a move up. All it will show is pets going for the tier or under that they’re on, not really help with moving it up? And I myself don’t think trade evidence would help, so I’m against using it.

I think what we’d need is the rarity changes for each tier written out a bit longer than how you did though that’s a great start.
I also think the wording should be changed to ‘I just wanted to vote’ instead of ‘I don’t know’ to stop any confusion and then we don’t even need to write out what it would mean tbh.

I think like I said maybe 10-15 pages or so back writing out rarity changes and then writing an analytical statement thereafter:
eg: it is definitely rarer than X, Y, Z pet and definitely not as rare as A, B, C. Not sure if rarer than J, K, L pet. (for an example for both this and future polls)

I think it might help give a bit more guidance about where-abouts the pet 'lays' on the VR-OMGSR spectrums. I think it'd be easier to understand than just lists of other pets rarity changes. ^^
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby myth; » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:44 am

Why are the gaps on the advent list so confusing? A teir 5 and teir 7 have barely any gap between them and it's making trading up really hard, because my two teir five advents are struggling to trade for a teir 7? Because there's only an 09 rare difference and yet.. they're 'not worth a teir 7'? Why are the gaps so small and close together?
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby scorps » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:51 am

Targaryen wrote:
ElementalInsanity wrote:It had been voiced and agreed about not using trade evidence because it being pure demand based and not being useful in a move up. All it will show is pets going for the tier or under that they’re on, not really help with moving it up? And I myself don’t think trade evidence would help, so I’m against using it.

I think what we’d need is the rarity changes for each tier written out a bit longer than how you did though that’s a great start.
I also think the wording should be changed to ‘I just wanted to vote’ instead of ‘I don’t know’ to stop any confusion and then we don’t even need to write out what it would mean tbh.

I think like I said maybe 10-15 pages or so back writing out rarity changes and then writing an analytical statement thereafter:
eg: it is definitely rarer than X, Y, Z pet and definitely not as rare as A, B, C. Not sure if rarer than J, K, L pet. (for an example for both this and future polls)

I think it might help give a bit more guidance about where-abouts the pet 'lays' on the VR-OMGSR spectrums. I think it'd be easier to understand than just lists of other pets rarity changes. ^^

i agree with using rarity changes as the best possible way to measure where a pets placed
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby ElementalInsanity » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:52 am

myth + destiny wrote:Why are the gaps on the advent list so confusing? A teir 5 and teir 7 have barely any gap between them and it's making trading up really hard, because my two teir five advents are struggling to trade for a teir 7? Because there's only an 09 rare difference and yet.. they're 'not worth a teir 7'? Why are the gaps so small and close together?


I’m not sure what you mean? They’re close together because the pets there don’t have that drastic of a difference in ‘rares list worth’
The advent list is supposed to be the one that has the easiest and less gaps because it’s the lowest.

Personal experience and other people’s demand may effect your trading. Just keep at it and send out trades yourself for the best results.
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby da, » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:24 am

I just checked the front page and jeez, I missed a lot overnight! Anyone wanna summarize why the added pets are being moved?
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby Targaryen » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:27 am

depressedanonymous, wrote:I just checked the front page and jeez, I missed a lot overnight! Anyone wanna summarize why the added pets are being moved?

literally just because they aren't as rare as the list implies them to be and it's just a step forward for the list being a bit more accurate rarity-wise based on rarity fluctuations we have recorded
eg. Joker Dog turned VR after a lot of september lists and at the same time as the Pink Floppy Sept. like we all know, it's only on the mainlist because of demand anyway. ^^
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby da, » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:31 am

Targaryen wrote:
depressedanonymous, wrote:I just checked the front page and jeez, I missed a lot overnight! Anyone wanna summarize why the added pets are being moved?

literally just because they aren't as rare as the list implies them to be and it's just a step forward for the list being a bit more accurate rarity-wise based on rarity fluctuations we have recorded
eg. Joker Dog turned VR after a lot of september lists and at the same time as the Pink Floppy Sept. like we all know, it's only on the mainlist because of demand anyway. ^^


Thank you!
Very interesting, hopefully they wont be moved down too drastically (besides the joker, I feel as though thats needed to be moved for a while).
Will we be working on finding a set value for the joker when its moved?
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Re: "The" Rares List Guide UPDATES 12/23/18

Postby ElementalInsanity » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:33 am

The ones listed for being moved down are in parenthesis. The others are to be added or moved up. You can click the link on it to be brought to the post they were suggested on to read more.

If the joker is moved it’ll likely be valued to whatever tier it gets moved to. There isn’t any set worth to anything anyways since people will value it however they want even if it’s moved.
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