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Disgaea by BelovedDearly

Artist BelovedDearly [gallery]
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Disgaea

Postby BelovedDearly » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:34 am

this is etna from disgaea shes also my gaia avatar i drew her our of boredom
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Re: Disgaea

Postby june-♓ » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:49 am

is this all in one layer? the lines are like... blended... eAe... its good, but the liiiiinnnnneeeeessssssss
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Re: Disgaea

Postby BelovedDearly » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:14 am

4 layers and i wanted it to look cartoony because etna is cartoony
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Re: Disgaea

Postby june-♓ » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:06 am

ik, but... hnnngggg...
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Re: Disgaea

Postby BelovedDearly » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:12 am

juneあ wrote:ik, but... hnnngggg...


i like it looking like that not to realistic and not to cartoony somewhere in the middle
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Re: Disgaea

Postby june-♓ » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:14 am

im not talking about the style, im talking about how sloppy the lines are. around her face is like a mess. the lines are all blended together with the color or something. im not trying to be mean, im really not, i just feel slightly ocd with this.
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Re: Disgaea

Postby BelovedDearly » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:29 am

juneあ wrote:im not talking about the style, im talking about how sloppy the lines are. around her face is like a mess. the lines are all blended together with the color or something. im not trying to be mean, im really not, i just feel slightly ocd with this.



oh darn

well you see i cant really see that i have bad vision (blind in one eye with no depth perception) so i do what i can and hope it comes out right

do you mean you still see the lines or...what...? or is it the lines with the shading..?
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Re: Disgaea

Postby june-♓ » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:37 am

i dont know how to explain it... im so bad at explaining... um... well... its like... GAH I DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT! /shot when i think of the right words to use, ill tell you. e^e"
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Re: Disgaea

Postby BelovedDearly » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:39 am

juneあ wrote:i dont know how to explain it... im so bad at explaining... um... well... its like... GAH I DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT! /shot when i think of the right words to use, ill tell you. e^e"



okay cause if i dont know i cant improve
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Re: Disgaea

Postby Khemo » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:03 am

BelovedDearly wrote:
juneあ wrote:i dont know how to explain it... im so bad at explaining... um... well... its like... GAH I DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT! /shot when i think of the right words to use, ill tell you. e^e"



okay cause if i dont know i cant improve

You abuse the smudge/blur/blend tool, whichever it is you use. I see this on all of your drawings. You seem to have some nice lines going, but then you don't do it justice because you have these messy points jutting out everywhere. Colors and forms get all swirled together and it's hard to discern some details. Details that do stick out, like your eyes, look unnatural and out of place. There needs to be a balance of refinement and messy, which I see you trying to work towards.

My suggestions to achieve this are more layers, like someone who suggested line art on a separate layer. This would be a major booster, as you won't risk running it into your colors, making them muddy. If you're going for lineless work, try subtle line art or go on top, but be very careful and still pay attention to refinement. Even lineless works of hairy textures look pretty crisp. I also suggest varying the sizes of hairs and paying attention to what direction hair moves over certain surfaces, or how much hair covers a surface, whether it'd be smooth or extra fuzzy. I notice you're on deviantart, so you can look up plenty of lineless tutorials to get an idea of how they go about it. Sure, a lot of them use photoshop, but you can take basic ideas and apply it to the tools you already have.

My biggest suggestion is to step away from the tool you're using to blend. Otherwise nice lines and shadows are made extremely messy. It looks chaotic (and not in a purposeful way) and it's hard to hone in on the focal point of your pieces. Edges of surfaces blend in with the background, which while I understand you're trying to achieve a hairy effect, just mix in with the background color and look messy. It's not the nicest word to see about your work but I'm being honest: It's messy. However based on your work you seen to have potential for cleaning things up if you experimented with different techniques. I personally use varying levels of opacity and flow (if you can get to it, I don't remember if chibipaint has it but you for sure get to play with opacity), and pulling colors in from the resulting streaks to smoothen out surfaces (I call these "in between" colors. I'd be happy to search for an example for you if you'd like).

And as a final note: I noticed you talked about a "troll" moving your pieces. You're aware mods are the ones that move things, right?
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