Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

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Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Rouvin » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:21 pm

What is a COPPA player?

This one is going to be a bit of a strange suggestion, just bear with me... if this has already been suggested, let me know, but I was unable to find anything in this board about this

First of all, when I say the "registered COPPA users" group, I mean this:
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Along with that, I do also want to include this part of the COPPA messages in what I'm suggesting to be removed (if it is not still this way, please let me know, I have not traded a COPPA user in a very long time and therefore don't know what their messages look like now/if it has changed):
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Now, as I said in the title, my suggestion here is to remove it from the view of normal players/non-staff. There are a few reasons for this, so let me list them here:

- Known COPPA users are more likely to get targeted for scams. From what I've seen, COPPA users and newer users are mostly the ones that get targeted for scams, particularly December 18th, because they are simply too young or too new to understand the values of these pets. While this suggestion obviously won't stop scams, I believe it would help at least a bit to not have the site itself be waving around the fact that someone is a COPPA player in their trade messages and on their profile (and yes, very obvious scam trades can be reversed, but CS very often won't do it because "players might value things differently", "you learned about the value after you accepted", "there is no proof of this being a scam", etc.).

- Stating someone is COPPA is somewhat like stating their age range. COPPA, if I remember correctly, is automatically placed on people under 13 in the US as a way to protect them. So, while saying that you're under 13 is not okay, saying that you're COPPA and having a tag on you that says you're COPPA, is- which, in my opinion, is a bit contradicting. And even if 13 isn't the exact number someone stops being COPPA, they are still young enough to be COPPA.

- COPPA players are young players that don't need the site itself telling everyone they are young. Somewhat similar to my last point- even if we don't want to compare it to an age range or you want to make the argument that some COPPA players get their COPPA off a year early/late, you can't deny that COPPA players are still minors, and the site is still allowing that to be said even though they ALSO don't allow you to say that you are a minor.

Pretty much, I just think that showing someone as a COPPA player removes the whole purpose of COPPA itself and all the regulations they have with it (delayed post times, limited trade messages, etc.)
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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Cady55again » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:23 pm

at first i was a bit confused, but honestly I support this! You made some pretty understandable points, maybe if it was just hidden to players this would be good!

edit: Agreeing with the person below me! I dealt with some pretty weird people online when I was younger, and it not only causes scams (as you said) but could get even worse if not dealt with
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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Madel » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:25 pm

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It could also potentially be dangerious for young players
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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Rouvin » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:15 pm

Madel wrote:support!
It could also potentially be dangerious for young players

Ah, yeah, that as well- not going to go into detail obviously but there are quite a few things that minors face online unfortunately, and it definitely goes beyond trades/scams- of course, being COPPA doesn't cause all of that- but it is another good point to bring up because I'm sure it doesn't necessarily help either (I'm thinking kind of similar to how DNI lists were removed because they also carried a lot of risks for the user even if they do help in some cases?)

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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Camaron » Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:04 pm

I completely agree; it is contradictive that you can't say you are a minor but have a tag on you that literally says you are one. Great points! :)
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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Mysticality » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:29 pm

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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Rouvin » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:33 am

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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby pisto pesto pasta » Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:25 am

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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby screamingrainfrog » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:22 am

100% support
Cs won't even allow adults to list their ages for safety ( which I personally think is silly but still ) but theres an entire group of players that are guaranteed minors with a badge that says that?
I think it definitely needs to be hidden or adjusted somehow.
Only thing I'm worried about is how they will be able to participate in trades/ giveaways etc. Without that 'I'm a coppa member and can only choose my message from a list of messages' thing
I guess it can just be altered?
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Re: Remove/hide the "registered COPPA users" group

Postby Rouvin » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:12 am

screamingrainfrog wrote:100% support
Cs won't even allow adults to list their ages for safety ( which I personally think is silly but still ) but theres an entire group of players that are guaranteed minors with a badge that says that?
I think it definitely needs to be hidden or adjusted somehow.
Only thing I'm worried about is how they will be able to participate in trades/ giveaways etc. Without that 'I'm a coppa member and can only choose my message from a list of messages' thing
I guess it can just be altered?


Yeah, my thought with that part of this suggestion was that it could be altered in some way- Perhaps it could keep the "I can only choose my messages from a list" so it is still clarifying that they can't post/send messages without mentioning the COPPA. Of course with that you can make the assumption that someone with that message is still COPPA because I don't know if there's anything else that limits messages in that way, but you would only find that out by already knowing COPPA is a thing, and happen to trade a COPPA user who also sent a message- which, is more effort than just seeing it right on someone's profile or being directly told that it's COPPA even if it doesn't 100% stop the issue
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