Sell Chicken Smoothie (Poll Has Been Reset!)

[duskze]

I feel like there needs to be a more detailed explanation for the title on the front page or at least linked because that keeps having to get re- explained.

[Lemon Tea Rain]

It keeps having to be re-explained because it's the title of the thread. Even if you put as much detail as you want in to the first post people are still either going to have a knee-jerk reaction as soon as they see the title and skip it, or at least assume that is the main goal when it's literally the entire topic's title. People who've taken the time to read the first post (usually people who agree) will understand (even if it's begrudgingly, like me) but as long as is stays title you'll have people coming in misunderstanding, unfortunately. That's just a fact of life, and the price of a controversial title.

[duskze]

I read the original post and it wasn’t explanation enough for me.
It would be fewer people if there was at least a header saying look here for why it’s called this, and a bit more detail. Particularly at the moment it’s also very buried.

[Tailish]

Re: the title, there was a longer conversation about why the title is the way it is here. The owner of the thread Cinnamon Stick also explained why the title will stay the way it is here. The reason is exactly what it says on the front page: selling the site was the main suggestion, and it was not taken off the table. The suggestion is fundamentally that CS should be sold if the admins have lost interest, and while this thread has turned into a bigger conversation about how the relationship between the owners and the users can be improved, the underlying suggestion has not changed.

I also personally don't mind the title, exactly because it causes that knee-jerk reaction where people to hop on the thread and give their opinions, which is necessary for the health of the thread (more here). Most people seem to jump into the conversation with an understanding of what it's about, and it's not the end of the world if every now and then someone has to be pointed to the front page/other parts of the thread so they can get the full context. I'd prefer that over a boring title that everyone ignores.

Re: the poll, I agree and this is why I haven't voted myself yet. However, it's a bit late for a whole new poll at this point. The thread seems to have worked very well as a way to allow people to explain how they feel in detail, seeing as we have a whopping 69 pages now C:

[Blueberry]

Hello, everyone! I apologise for the belated reply, I've been quite busy.

I have reset the polls and provided more options! I have a screenshot of the previous poll which I intend on uploading.

I am aware that the Main Post is rather clogged, and difficult to maneuver through. With so much information, I do wish I had made a second post directly after the first for this very reason T^T

In the meantime, I will attempt to clean up the first post! Thank you everyone for your dedication, support, and opinions!

[ElementalInsanity]

@Cinnamon Thank you very much for the updated poll. =)

Also if you want more posts there is always the option of reporting the next couple of posts after yours and asking for the post to be passed over to your ownership. It means the next few people’s posts will then be gone because you’ll edit over their words but it will give you more room for organizing if you so desire.

[axelandria]

Hello, everyone! I apologise for the belated reply, I've been quite busy.

I have reset the polls and provided more options! I have a screenshot of the previous poll which I intend on uploading.

I am aware that the Main Post is rather clogged, and difficult to maneuver through. With so much information, I do wish I had made a second post directly after the first for this very reason T^T

In the meantime, I will attempt to clean up the first post! Thank you everyone for your dedication, support, and opinions!

thank you so much!

[Shian]

I initially voted not to sell CS because that's what my kneejerk reaction was. Originally the call to sell was to get attention.

But you know what? I changed it.
Tess is not around. She hasn't been around for years and shown a very clear disinterest in this site. That's not a bad thing, mind you. On the contrary it's very normal. Many mods have come and gone and even come back again over the years so it's not surprising that even Tess feels the same way. That life has gotten too busy or whatever.

There's just so many things that can't be done without her permission. It's why we've been stuck this way for years.
Changing the color of the VC color? How many years did that take? Even the simplest of suggestions needs to be greenlit by Tess because it's still her site. It's very very much time to pass the torch. Give it to someone who CAN devote time and energy to care, develop and maintain the website.

Like I said before, I thought that's what was happening when Admin Assistants became a thing. That there was going to be less of a bottleneck for site changes/updates and multiple owners could make changes to the site. But it hasn't. It's time to let this site go. Give it to Simon or Sorren or whoever is willing to DO SOMETHING that betters and improves the site. Or at least comment on the hundreds of site suggestions listed here why something will or won't work.

The mid month updates are great. The staff being more active in the community is great. Compiling all the rules in one place is something that's been sorely needed but anyone can do that, can't they?
These are all very good steps in the right direction, but it's not the biggest step to me and I really don't want to lose sight of that.
To settle on, "Well, this is all that we're getting because it's better than nothing."

Going back to the trading issues as an example of an issue that has only gotten bigger as time goes by because it's not fixed or addressed. This isn't something the current staff can help with. There's so many topics in this sub board that just can't be dealt with by a mod. Not even a "yes that could work" or "No we won't be adding that".

[Seasonal]

Selling CS would be entirely up to Tess and Nick. I don't believe it needs to be discussed any further than that.

[cαtαstrσphe]

Selling CS would be entirely up to Tess and Nick. I don't believe it needs to be discussed any further than that.

"Sell" perhaps may not be the correct word for what Shian is suggesting, more handing the site down to the admin team to vote on and make big decisions instead of needing everything to be approved. So that, in a way, though Tess will still be the owner, the other admins and assistants have the power to implement suggestions and changes. Even if they're only small ones, something is better than nothing. What we have going now is an amazing start and I know many of us would love to see this new trend continue into the future, even if we may not all be left to see it.